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Puzzling Peru 20 Centavos

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This coin has me puzzled. I can't seem to find it in krause.

Apart from the fact that it's pretty ugly I have been trying to pin down the km#.

The only 1945 dated 20 centavos in krause is the 221.3 but the obverse font is not right

The font is the same as 221.2 but that started in 1946.

Is this a 221.2 but krause have missed out the 1945?

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All the pre-1951 types of 20 centavo are listed in my Krause as cupronickel, which is the same alloy USA 5¢ coins are normally made of, but WCG and NumisMaster now list the post-1941 coins as brass, and yours is clearly brass too. If they've made an error in metal they've only recently got around to correcting, it's quite possible they've got some dates omitted too.

The other option is the last figure in the date isn't really a "5", but an "8". But it sure looks like a "5" to me.
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How do you know the font is different from the 221.3? My Krause doesn't have a picture of that KM#.
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In mine (33rd ed. 2006), the pic for 221.3 is in the previous column. There's also pics on NumisMaster.
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I have the 31st and 34th editions. In the 31st edition they are all listed as copper nickel as Sap pointed out, however, they have been corrected in the 34th edition to brass.

The font on the 221.3, the one with a 1945 date listed, has a different shape 4. The top is closed. On mine and on the 221.2 the top is open. The 34th edition has photos of both coins. Also the date is rotated further clockwise around the coin, as is mine.

The last digit on my coin is definitely a 5. There is no ambiguity there.

I suspect that they have just missed the year out, for this km#. Is it worth letting them know? Especially since this is such a poor example.

Also I assumed they get their information directly from the mints involved and therefore would have been told about every coin. Otherwise where do they get the mintage figures from?

Mind you I suppose if they were given a mintage figure for 1945 but didn't know there were 2 different styles for that year they would not question it, unless an example shows up.
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