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I have another .50 posted in Canadian Grading and I've been told it looks like a scan. This is a different one better I hope ? But I can't get the luster to show.
I'm having the same problem with all nickel and silver coins.

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 Posted 10/26/2016  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is your setup?
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These looks a whole lot better than most of the scans I see (made with current scanners).

About the only time I see luster on any of my shots is when I'm forced to lower the angle of the lighting to eliminate glare from a slab. When possible, I have the lights as close to vertical as possible (and usually just on one side).
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As pepactonius says, luster shows up best when you lower the lighting angle. Having the lights be "small" sources also helps, so remove diffusion or move the lights farther away from the coin. They should come in orthogonal to each other as well, eg 10-1 or 11-2. This will make the "luster bars" appear as an X on the coin. I suggest lowering the lights incrementally until you see a sufficient amount of luster, then stopping. If you go too low, you will lose the "pop" that you get with high angle lighting.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike,
I don't know much about photography but with that rig you should be able to get some great pics with tips from the pros and some or a lot of practice. Good luck.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still having problems with those .50 I have done the eye drop set up but still have a dark back ground. Have also done what you said Ray lights up down left right it changes a hair that's all, can't get those 50's to come out right.
No problem with the copper, I think.

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mcshilling. I will post 3 photos. if you like how they are done. I will tell you how I did them. you have every thing you need. but you will have make one more item. plus you will need to buy a old 60 watt frosted light bulb. this is if the photos are close. to what you are looking for hope this helps.there is one fifty cent coin still in the uncirculated set. if I was to remove it. the photo would be better

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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks rocky, the first one is what I'm looking for.
Let me know what to do it by email or post on here.
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ok mcshilling question do you live any where near a dollar store. if not I will buy you a sheet of studio board. I will make you a little box. it will surprise you. how well this works and how easy it is. if you live handy to a dollar store. I want you to buy a sheet of black studio board. like I have said if you dont then I will buy you a sheet. if I do that I will put the box together for you. once you have the box I tell you how to use it. then we share here the results. there is 2 ways it works. one you have to get a cheap lens filter from China. its hard to believe but this filter is cheap and it works great. ok let me know. tomorrow I am in the bush in the morning. I will be in the city in the afternoon. if you want I can pick you up the sheet in the afternoon
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here is the effect. this little box has on copper pennies mcshilling. I like your image of your penny. with this box your penny would be slightly a bite darker that all. remember I have done no editing to my images. just down sizing to fit here

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OK will get a piece of board this afternoon.
But the filter is a ?
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rocky I have to ask, do you want "studio Board" or "Bristol Board" ?
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mcshilling I made mine out of black studio board. I got the idea for this box from austrokiwi. the board is flat black with a foam core. the lens filter. I got it from China. it measures 105mm. I payed 7 dollars Canadian free shipping. it works great for pennies you dont need the filter. what I have learned is that. if I put this lens between shiny coins an the camera. I dont get lens reflections. if I use a 60 watt frosted light bulb with a diffuser. I can light the coin perfectly for what I want. one thing thou you do not keep that bulb on. when you are not photographing. it will almost set the diffuser on fire.so you only light with this bulb when you are ready. here is a few images to show you how this box looks like

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Well I looked up the filter, found it, ordered it and they came back and said we do not "ship to your address."
In the shipping info they do ship to Canada ($3) so I don't know.
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mcshilling. I will see what I can do for you. see I want to try to build a mount. to see if it matters. where the filter is between the lens and the coin. see all the filter is doing is defecting. the reflection of the camera and lens off the shiny coins. that would mean one could use a smaller filter. the idea is to move the reflection off the coin. so the camera lens does not pick it up in the photo. I think ray, austrokiwi and pepactonius could explain what is happening here with this filter. all I know is it works to get rid of the camera reflection. so it does not show up in the image of a bright coin. which makes it easier to light the coin. ok I will try a smaller filter. see what I get
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