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2 X 1874 25 Cents For Grade

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Hi I need your help for grading theses 2 coins thx!

2-X-1874-25-Cents-For-Grade


Repunched 7
2-X-1874-25-Cents-For-Grade

2-X-1874-25-Cents-For-Grade
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 Posted 10/27/2016  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The devices look off on the second coin. I will wait for the experts to chime in before I grade either of them.
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The first one I would say might be EF40.

On the second one, I agree with AgHoarder.
There are minor discrepencies that concern me as
to the authenticity of this coin, but I'm not sure if
it is enough to say if it is legitimate or not.
Hopefully one of our Vicky experts can confirm this either way.
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1st one I would say EF40 --but the second one has lots of detail and would be AU+ (BUT) the date looks wrong so I am picking counterfeit

BUT they are both counterfeit because of this mark which can be just seen on both coins (my thoughts)


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I'm almost useless when it comes to figuring out counterfeits (unless they are very, very obvious). But for grading, if legimate: The first is an easy AU55-58 (if not MS). The second (the one in question) would be closer to EF45, might hit AU50
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Wouldn't CCF be a great place to see if your counterfeit could pass? I'm almost tempted not to answer future posts like this one.
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They both appear to be genuine.
AU58 for the first
AU50 scratched for the second
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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10/27/2016 7:19 pm
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These coin are genuine
Here is the weight of each coin
1st 5,81 gr
2nd 5,82 gr
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I agree, they look real to me.. and, very nice ones I might add.

AU-58 for both.
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the bottom right serif on the 1 is half the width than the left.
the lower portion of the 8 has a protrusion at 2 o'clock
the serif on the 7 appears to be missing
the composition of the 4 is muddled
the "N" in CENTS has a very weak strike on the left section and once again, different sized serifs
the numerals in the date are thinner overall and are progressively lower from left to right.

All of these observations are based on a comparison to the pictures of the first coin. It's interesting to see two very different designs on the same year of coin.
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Sinophobia is setting in.
Those anomalies aren't surprising at all
Each coin was struck from a different reverse die.
Those dies were likely punched years apart, one, for sure, is a leftover from 1872.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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10/29/2016 11:12 pm
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AU55, EF45
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