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1963-Jefferson Nickel...corner Clip?

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A 1963-Jefferson nickel...corner clip error?

1963-Jefferson-Nickel...corner-Clip?

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1963-Jefferson-Nickel...corner-Clip?
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 Posted 10/28/2016  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing any blakesly, might not be a genuine clip
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On the reverse, below the TE of UNITED you can see the scars of pressure that was made to the coin to cut it. So PMD.
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It is a genuine incomplete(clipped) planchet although there are some PMD scrapes on the reverse. Die flow is present on the D of GOD and you of TRUST and can be seen on UNITED as well but partially obscured by the scrapes. The absence of the Blakesley Effect is not a fool-proof indicator of an altered coin but die flow will be present on a genuine incomplete planchet if there are devices adjacent to the clip.


Arrrggg, stupid auto-correct you=U of TRUST
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I can see the Blakesley effect on the 63 on the date and next to the 'M' on UNUM.
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Thank you for your valuable insight and opinions...I figured the scrapes were circulation damage considering the age of the coin...but it was hard to see any Blakesley effect until coop pointed it out...this site never disappoints.
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I can see the Blakesley effect on the 63 on the date and next to the 'M' on UNUM.



I am having a hard time seeing it.

I know I should be looking for this:

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Blakesley effect
The weakness opposite the clip on a clipped planchet error coin. This occures during the upsetting process, because of the clip there is a lack in pressure to upset the rim directly opposite the clip.


Is it so tiny that my tired ole eyes just can't make it out?
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Let's not forget..the Blakesley effect (like a lie detector..lol).is not 100% proof...but I do see a weakness in the "M"..and a portion of the "U"...if you compare it to the first "U" in Unum and each "U" in pluribus...idk..what do I know...lol
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Pic of reverse shows it was cut straight, with a pair of snips, then circulated IMHO.
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The clip does not look like it has the same curve of a nickel. Can you put a normal nickel in the clip and post a pic?
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Genuine curved clip - the die flow along the clip being the best evidence. The shape of the clip is strange, however the shape can be distorted under heavy pressure between two dies.
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Is this what you meant "john1"?...also a couple closer looks at the clip...would this be considered a corner clip instead of curved...assuming it's genuine of course

1963-Jefferson-Nickel...corner-Clip?

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Thanks for the added pics cheifbrody. I meant side by side where you slide the normal coin into the missing part of the incomplete planchet. I am no pro but I still don't think it is an incomplete planchet,IMHO.
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I see that the rim above the date appears to be wider. Is that the Blakesley Effect?

I do not see a difference between the 2 Us in UNUM or any impact on the M.

I do see what looks like impact flattening below TED.

In other words, I would like to understand where this Blakesley Effect is showing.

Maybe I am just too dense and senile to understand this at all!
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See if this helps Pete:
1963-Jefferson-Nickel...corner-Clip?
1963-Jefferson-Nickel...corner-Clip?
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Thanks, Coop - Most Helpful!

You answered my question:

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I see that the rim above the date appears to be wider. Is that the Blakesley Effect?

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