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Hopefully This One Is A Brockage!

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The reverse has a cupped rim and you can see the mirror image of the queen, the 'TIA' of 'GRATIA', and the 'REG' of 'REGINA' also in mirror.....but does the image of queen seems much larger than what would be expected for a brockage?

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Looks like a capped die error to me.
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What's the difference between a capped die error and a brockage? I thought a capped die causes the brockage strike.
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It's a nice brockage, a cap depends on the depth of the brockage
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We need Mike to rewrite the definitions in CCF's glossary.
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Looks like a capped die! Nice!
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Most definitely a brockage, from a mid stage capped die, so the metal is spreading out and the image is enlarging.

I have a similar example (different effigy), but from an even later strike: http://www.PCGS.com/cert/28661579

What is interesting is that your coin does not have the typical orange peel texture that you see with brockages... perhaps circulation smoothed it out?
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Your coin is actually a later stage counter brockage. Much scarcer than a normal capped die error. Note the expanded image of the queen. Letters along the rim area have disappeared due to its later stage.
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Isn't the image on a counter brockage raised? This one is incuse...
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Oh...sorry I thought your image was raised. Given that information, I agree that its struck through a die cap.
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A counterbrockage is not in mirror image - this coin is (Queen is facing left).
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I get mixed up with canadian striking in that normally the "heads" side of US coins is the obverse, striking die as opposed to Canada where normally the "heads" side is the reverse die. Just have to remember that the dated side of canadian coins is the striking, obverse side.
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Yup - heads is the anvil die and the reverse is the hammer die... Also, there are totally different types of presses than the US, so we never see saddle strikes and the nested clusters that you see with US coins.
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