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1 Oz. American Gold Eagle, Price Difference

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 Posted 11/18/2016  12:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add peteypool to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am new to coin collecting. I would like to know why there is such a difference in price for a uncirculated 1 oz.gold American Eagle.
$ 1525.00 from U.S. Mint, $ 1321.10 from APMEX on ebay. Thats over $200.00 difference ! Could someone enlighten me .
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 Posted 11/18/2016  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are slightly different coins. The APMEX and other dealers are selling straight bullion coins. The mint is selling "numismatic versions. The bullion coins are regular business strike and get a rougher handling. The mint sells proof coins, which are struck differently and get special handling and have a different finish, and the uncirculated ones from the mint are also struck better, get better handling and have a mint mark. Are they worth an extra $200? I don't think so, but some people do.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "uncirculated" version sold directly by the Mint follows a different minting process vs. the standard uncirculated bullion pieces to which you refer. The finish on the Mint-direct coin is often referred to as "burnished."

The finish is the result of using polished planchets, special handling to prevent damage to the planchets after polishing and the use of extra pressure during striking. This contrasts with the "volume production" method of minting for the bullion version of the coin.

Also, the burnished coins tend to have a more frosty or satiny finish vs. the bullion coins which tend to be more brilliant (i.e., shinier).

All of the special preparation and extra handling produce a coin with a higher quality finish. The extra handling also results in higher production costs which get passed on to collectors.

Lastly, the burnished coins features a mint mark ("W" for West Point) where the bullion coins do not.

Hope that helps!

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 Posted 11/18/2016  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get one of each - and you are covered!
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 Posted 11/18/2016  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same as Bullion Silver Eagle vs. burnished W mintmark eagle

Same as bullion 5 ounce ATB silver vs burnished ATB

First is a pure bullion issue and the second is a numismatic issue


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 Posted 11/18/2016  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wanted to mention ...

Many times after a couple years you can buy the mint proof and UNC
coins for less than issue prices ...if the price of gold stays near the
same ... or goes down.
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 Posted 11/19/2016  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fox. Technically the 5oz uncirculated isn't a pre strike burnishing of the planchet but rather is vapor blasted after the strike correct?
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Correct...

..actually have a link to the whole ATB puck minting process and differences in the two items

http://www.coinnews.net/2013/09/27/...ilver-coins/



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Awesome link. That clears up a lot of questions.

Thanks for providing it.
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 Posted 11/20/2016  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pete

And thanks for the link Foxwoods!
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 Posted 11/21/2016  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will repost the link in the appropriate thread. It is kinda cool...
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