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1955-S Interior Die Break/Retained Cud Help Please

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Found 9 of these in a "obw" roll. It appears similar to several Retained Cuds on CoC, but on none of the nine does the break go to the rim. It is also similar to some interior die breaks listed. These are new to me and I am not sure I completely understand exactly what I am looking at. I am thinking IDB, but opinions would be appreciated. The pics below are from three of the different coins.

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Not sure what this would be. I'm not sure if it would be either. I think it is the start of a Retained Cud on COC.I would like to see others opinions on this.

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Yes IDB, the start of a RCUD. My understanding is a RCUD starts at the rim finishes at the rim, and the area is shifted. Then when it finally breaks off it's a Cud. Sorry I meant die cracks
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Looks like a die crack soon to be Retained Cud most likely like dustin said-i dont see an IDB
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RCUD starts at the rim finishes at the rim, and the area is shifted.

I agree with that, and when it finally breaks off, it's no longer retained. I think what you have now is a rim to rim crack.
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None of the cracks on any of the 9 coins go to the rim.
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Your third pic looks like it does, but you have it in hand, so I guess they are just Die Cracks.
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I will recheck them under the scope and confirm.
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Looks like a die crack to me, but it wouldn't be the first or the last time I'm wrong.
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Gone cross-eyed looking at these, but Coinmasters eyes may be better than mine. Take a look at the pic below, it does appear to have something going on to the rim of the coins. Doesn't look like a crack, but maybe a beginning of the crack? So maybe a Retained Cud?

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Without any offset or displacement it would still not be a Retained Cud even if it continued and I don't see any sign of that(so for Retained Cud if the crack goes from rim to rim the next thing you need is vertical displacement or horizontal offset to make a retained cud-vertical displacement is tough to capture in photo)
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with Slamnbass. I've studied the pics a little closer and no longer think it's rim to rim, but a very nice crack nonetheless.

and in multiples.
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Yep just die cracks.
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