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1852 Large Cent - Grade And Value If Impaired Please

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Newb at collecting and grading. Would appreciate your thoughts on grade and value if you think the coin is impaired. Paid $40. Thanks!

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I would grade it VF35 and with perhaps an older cleaning that has started to retone, as the color does not look natural from these pictures. Still a pretty nice old girl.
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Thanks. It was represented to me as XF40. Can you help me learn what keeps it from XF?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Even with the mushy later die state, there is nowhere near enough detail in the reverse leaves to merit a full XF grade, as the vein detail is only visible on one or two leaves.

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I think it just might make xf40, you're not far off. I look at the hair details, and particularly above the ear. A bit of a later die state.
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Thank you for your help one and all. I have some more coins in my small collection that I will be posting. I am so bad at grading.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I am so bad at grading.


Hang out here for awhile and you won't be for long.
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I agree with XF-40. Cleaned and starting to re-tone.
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vf35 to xf 40 a tweener. color looks a bit odd but could be photography issue. $40 is an ok price I think. Sometimes you can find them in this shape for a bit less.
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VF-35
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EF-40 straight.
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old cleaning. mushy strike. XF40 details
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I agree with 40 but it's tough to tell if this has been dipped, or not. The photo color leads me to think so, but true color may be different.
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under natural light, the coin is a darker brown. this is under a direct incandescent lamp for photos.
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Then if the coin appears a dark brown in person, I don't think it is cleaned. XF-40 Straight. And I spy with my little eye a RPD on the 2
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XF-40
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