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1863 Indian Head Cent - Grade And Value If Impaired Please

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Newb at collecting and grading. Would appreciate your thoughts on grade and value if you think the coin is impaired. Paid $80. Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/29/2016  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58 and quite nice, although I'm not sure what's going on to the right of the date.

Color looks a bit off, perhaps due to pictures/lighting. It may be recolored.
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AU58 , I think it's original , obverse denticle issue . and reverse rim issues . possibly slight wear on feather tips .
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 Posted 11/29/2016  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is definitely some damage between the 3 and the A. Don't know how much it impairs the coin.

1863-Indian-Head-Cent---Grade-And-Value-If-Impaired-Please
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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MS-62 without the problems by the rim and such. Tons of luster, original redness, and full diamonds. Weakness in the tops of the feathers is most likely from a worn die. The copper-nickel series seems to feature lots of cents with "mushy" details in the feathers IMO.
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Nice one, too bad about the rim damage.
MS details
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AU-58
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I don't see any obvious wear. Good deal for $80!
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AU-58
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I'll go 63, but the color does not look right for a copper nickel coin.
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I say AU-MS details. Color is not right.
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The weird color could be caused by the lighting.
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I would appreciate if the poster would try a new set of pics. Copper-nickel cents do not look red in any grade.
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MS-62.
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MS-61. Hope the fault to right of the date is a planchet flaw but is probably PMD. Looks not cleaned.
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Just rotating these.

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1863-Indian-Head-Cent---Grade-And-Value-If-Impaired-Please
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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