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1899 a very solid and beautiful MS-65, with an honest shot at 66.
1897-S Very nice MS-64. I'm not sure about this making a 65. I would MOST DEFINITELY NOT attempt to do anything with the light toning.
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 99 MS-65 possibly 66. 97-S MS-64 with a shot at 65. |
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I'll post grades later tonight.
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with IGE as usual. |
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The '99 looks like a 64 unless it has rubs then it's a 58 I'd assume. This is based on strike, luster & eye appeal and not the lack of contact marks.
The '97-S is probably a 63 but could also go 64 if a dip removed the haze without hurting the luster. And again the lack of contact marks is only half the grade.
I've had blemish free coins grade as low as 62 due to similar issues.
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i have the 99 at MS64. it might push a 65 but I dont think it would grade a 66 although the surfaces are pretty clean from chatter, original luster is missing on the high points of the obverse. the 97 I have at MS64 also.
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I'm at 65/shot 66 on the '99, and 64/shot 65 on the '97. Very nice examples.
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12/11/2016 4:50 pm
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OK some of you were close and a few spot on. I definitely feel the 1899 should be a 65 and seems the most likely to upgrade versus the 97S. Here are the grades 1899 has a small nick near libertys eye and very light marks on face and relatively clean fields. 1897S I think the weird toning holds it back from a 65 as the cheek is relatively clean same for the fields.   |
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That 1899 looks way different in that pic, wow.
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This thread demonstrates that it is really difficult to distinguish MS grades from pics. All grading guides stress the importance of moving the coins under lighting to examine the cartwheel luster and breaks from it. The truth about the surface of this coin lies between the original pics and those in the grade reveal, which are miles apart. To me, they could both be 65s. I have seen much crazier toning that did not deduct from the technical grade. You never know. There are a lot of uncertain variables related to the idiosynchratic preferences of individual graders at a point in time.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
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