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Canada's Polymer Banknotes Contain Tallow

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I just don't understand what the big whoop is about this...so what!

http://canadiancoinnews.com/canadas...tain-tallow/
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Oh no. Can you imagine being "forced" to handle money that contains an animal product in it. I would never let that into my faux leather wallet which sits in the pocket of my non-wool pants which are held up by my faux leather belt.
Seriously, people have way too much time on their hands.
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Steffi Rox has them in her head.......needs go walk about with Lena Dunham and talk to rocks in the Arizona desert.
This politically correct stuff knows no bounds. She can send me all her Churchill fivers if she is offended . Then find a safe place with colouring book and crayons . Wait hold the crayons ..... they contain tallow too!
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I feel like people need to complain about something at all times. Nothing can ever be "okay"... not sure if it's social media that caused this when it boomed a few years ago.. I just don't get it
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Everybody needs to agree with everybody else except in those instances where the opinions expressed dont coincide with someone else's, especially if those some other people are not part of everybody.

Even I say "What?".
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no one is FORCED to use this "paper" money;
most people go cashless anyway - so what's the big deal.
If you have a problem with this, then use your bank, or credit card... which hopefully do not have minute traces of tallow.

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If you have a problem with this, then use your bank, or credit card... which hopefully do not have minute traces of tallow.


Except those are made from hydrocarbons, and hydrocarbons are derived from organic material deposited in ancient oceans, major fluvial systems and estuaries...

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Why wouldn't we consider an alternative? Doesn't it seem needless or even antiquated that we need to use animal parts to make our money?

disclaimer: I am probably the worst candidate here to have made that statement. I look at this argument from a technological standpoint only. Please disregard the fact that I've eaten a small farm in the last month.
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What I am really disturbed about..... we just came back from a very nice steak house......yummy BTW. I paid with a pocket full of polymers and a thought came to mind...... people like Miss ROX in her head and fellow vegans are eating my Foods Food. .
And slightly off topic ..... After tasty animal dinner we went to the mall and got 4 Merry Christmas greetings.... Love it we are back!!
Merry Christmas everybody!
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Oh boy. Just when ya thought some folks in the western world had too much to worry about, BOOM, they roll out out meat bills.

At least if the economy gets really bad we can eat a stack of fivers, cheaper than a pound of beef.

Merry Christmas everyone here.
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Polymer chemist / formulator here.

It sounds like they used animal based stearic acid derived from tallow as a lubricant.


Very common in polymer formulation.

You can get a vegetable based / kosher stearic acid too. I have had to buy the kosher before in a supply pinch. Minimal cost difference (it has been over a decade since I have purchased kosher stearic acid, but maybe 5 - 10 cents a pound for the raw material and likely no more than a quarter a percent of the total product weight so factor that down by the percentage and you get next to no cost difference.

The difference in an end product would be less than $0.001 USD per pound of notes no doubt. Probably can add another decimal or two, but I am not doing the math with make believe prices (though I am sure my assumptions are not far off at all).

Moral of the story, buy American. This is how you get lead in your Chinese toys and animal fat in your Aussie plastics without knowing. The best polymer chemists are all in America. Even the best of BASF Germany reside in Texas.
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people like Miss ROX in her head and fellow vegans are eating my Foods Food

that hurt my brain reading it.Hilarious

Ok here goes...IMHO this just the latest cause of the month.
There worried or concerned about this? If this is there biggest concern well,? idk.

Merry Christmas !

P.S.-Why is this thread in this forum.Juz curious
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And you can get hyrdrocarbons from non animal products in mass quantity too.

Braskem (now part of Dow I believe; large Brazilian chemical company) makes hyrdrocarbons out of sugar cane and then it makes polyethylene / polypropylene out of that.

100% animal free is possible and not a cost concern, in particular for an entity that literally prints money out of thin air.
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Polymer chemist / formulator here.

Thanks for sharing your expertise here.
I am pleasantly surprised to hear that it is nearly the same price to get the non-animal product.

I still think that people are acting extreme by trying to force change, but I can see the case for such change better now.
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You know, what gets me about all this is the fact there are more important issues than what materials are used in money. If people would spend their efforts on "more important" issues maybe they'd make a difference.
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Yes, I agree TheForce..

The world is in a horrible mess and we worry about what is in our money..geez give it up.
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