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I Think I Have A Problem.. Toners

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So I think this past week and a half was a pretty good purchasing week for me.. I have quite a few toners in the mail from this ICG 63 toner that I got cheap, to all the others in PCGS, and two others I don't have pics of for the time being. Just thought I'd share my newps with the forum!
Also, all of these pictures are the seller/dealer/auction website photos. I'm waiting out by the mailbox now!
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Sorry, not my cup of tea.
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I love the toners myself. Looking at that 1884 O though even being slabbed it just doesn't look right. I do know for certain there was at least one individual who figured out how to AT coins in the slab. PCGS changed their design to help stop this from happening, but that is an older slab which would have been a prime target for that type of AT attempt. Turning a $70 coin into a $300+ coin is a lot of incentive for certain individuals.
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Not my cup of tea. I like the orangey golden Morgan's.
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I like my tea Blast White !
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I don't differentiate a preference between toned and white as long as the coin is one I love. The exception being coins included in sets, where I want the set to look cohesive.
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The one with the rainbow crescent, how much of a premium did you pay?
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I like some kinds of toning, but not especially these.
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I like my tea Blast White !


Really? You must add milk.

I like mine with sugar.

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On the larger photos that 84-O has textile toning on the cheek, which would be very hard to fake and even harder to fake in the slab. I haven't gotten the coin in hand yet, but if it looks questionable to me in hand, it'll most likely be returned. Thanks everyone, and at first I preferred the blast white PL/DMPL coins but after I bought one of my first toners I was hooked. I moved from ok toners that I could pick up for low premiums, but have been trying to pick up nicer coins with color lately. That rainbow crescent came to about a $150 premium for that coin/grade.
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I moved from ok toners that I could pick up for low premiums, but have been trying to pick up nicer coins with color lately. That rainbow crescent came to about a $150 premium for that coin/grade.


If you don't mind me saying so, I think the risk you might run into with collecting these is changing collector preferences. While the rainbow coins currently might command a premium, what happens if they fall out of favor. Much like the 50's and 60's with the blast-white harshly-cleaned coins. Anytime something commands a premium, I suspect you are going to have a rush of speculators doctoring coins to capture that premium. I've found myself wondering how much longer the rainbow Morgan craze will last.
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Who cares about your cups of tea? This is his coins and his post.
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I like original rainbow toned coins, but won't pay a whole lot more for them. There are some that will, so they will generally get them when they become available. Part of the reason is that there are huge premiums for colorful Morgans whereas other colored coins trade at a relatively small premium at auction and between dealers. Retail prices are off the charts, however. That sort of situation makes me very nervous.
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That 84-O is really sweet in my opinion.
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I will say that I was really in love with monster rainbow toned Morgans a couple o years ago. But since then I have kind of gotten over them. The crazy prices that these toners bring, especially for common dates, forced me to start scratching my head. Don't get me wrong. I still prefer toning and color to blast white (boring after a while), but the obsessive romance is gone for true monsters. The prices make it impossible for me to own one. I have no problem paying a certain premium but not multiples of the coin's value . . . . just for color. That doesn't make sense to me.

The 1884-O does indeed have a textile pattern on the cheek, so I believe this one to be market acceptable.


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While the rainbow coins currently might command a premium, what happens if they fall out of favor.


They very well could. However, I think there will always be a market for natural, beautifully toned Morgans from this time forward. I don't think it's a fad. What is uncertain at this point is how many of the monsters that currently exist today will still be monsters, unchanged, 30-50 years from now? Will the monsters of today become the terminal black holes of tomorrow? Who knows?

But you know what? I'll probably still like those terminal black beauties. However, if the Morgan below, arguably the most beautifully toned Morgan in existence, ever becomes a terminal specimen it will be sad indeed.

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