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Another 1795 flowing hair dollar just came up for auction graded F-12.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-doll...ption-071515

Is there something I'm missing here? Compare to mine graded at VG-10

https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-doll...yBids-101116
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Looks pretty darn close but I have no knowledge in 1795 flowing hair dollars . Wait for the guys in the know .
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Yours was graded Friday afternoon and the grader wanted to get out of there for the weekend.
My opinion is they should grade about the same at F-12.
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Awfully close, must admit. Yours may perhaps have been "netted" a grade for the rim issues. But I think we'd all agree that this sort of situation is hardly uncommon for TPG holders - it's what "cracking" is all about.
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I deleated my previous post. Yours absolutely looks better than the "Fine" graded coin and far nicer surfaces for sure. I had the same B-5 and sold it last year it was in a cleaned VF holder. It's all about grader discretion.This coin had some scuffs on the cheek too.


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I'm far from an expert on this, but most of the differences do appear to be on the dentils/rim. The relative damage is pretty balanced. The only significant detail I can see in the 12 that's not on the 10 is in the lower part of the hair, but that could just be contrast -- yours is pretty even in color and tone while the 12 is darker in places and makes the details stand out more, where they exist.
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Your example is exactly why you buy the coin and not the grade on the holder.
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Close with the rim snags on the VG being the only notable difference. But we are talking a 10 versus a 12, not a 10 versus a 20.
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But we are talking a 10 versus a 12, not a 10 versus a 20.


The difference between VG-10 to F-12 based on auction history is about $700. http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/6852
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01/23/2017 6:22 pm
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Right. Learn to grade and come to trust yourself.

Shame about the qualifier on bandsdean's example - what a super coin. But if nothing else, it clearly shows unarguable VF details.

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I'd say that yours was downgraded due to the left side of the obverse. Some weakness and rim dings show there. Close? Yes, but I think they got yours and the other right.
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