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1893 S Barber Quarter - You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 01/26/2017  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that's really a shocker to me that coin really is quite attractive and looks to have original surfaces. Perhaps it was lightly cleaned and judiciously retoned; through a loupe can you see any hairlines that might indicate cleaning?
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 Posted 01/26/2017  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The slab shows the 92 code. It indicates the grader thought it was cleaned.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 01/26/2017  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can someone answer this question. Not this one, but if a coin has slight hairlines say in two random spots of the obverse - around 7oclock and 11 areas of the fields. Is that a slight wipe? The reverse has slight hairlines around the 2 oclock field. I know cleaned coins say if they were wiped would have consistent hairlines in a series. Are there any other causes of hairlines. Sorry for the long wind, but this thing has been bugging me about one of my coins.
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 Posted 01/26/2017  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 01/27/2017  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am floored by this finding . PCGS should have at least said why they gave it VF Details .
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 Posted 01/27/2017  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They did.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 01/27/2017  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that Liberty face is darkened and the discoloration on the neck might be signs of cleaning. Am I wrong?
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 Posted 01/27/2017  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you provide a larger cropped, hi res picture of the coin?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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 Posted 01/27/2017  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, I cannot.
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