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 Posted 01/25/2017  11:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheCoinDom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

Every time I take pictures of coins they are horrible.

Now that I'd like to post my type sets on this forum, the pictures just can't look like they usually do.

If anyone out there knows how to take good pictures of coins, their help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
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I too am trying to figure this out. I've had some pretty good luck placing my Apple camera/phone on a PCGS/NGC box directly above the coin. Results improve a bit if I place the subject coin on top of a smaller coin. It also seems that a dark background produces better images than one that is light colored.
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I like the PCGS box idea. I made a "stand" that is the perfect height for my iPhone camera to focus on the coin.

Have you played around with the lighting? Is your issue more on focusing or too dark or too bright?
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DominikWSP list what you are using to take your photos. upload a couple of pictures. we can go from there.the forum is a great place to get help.
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 Posted 01/25/2017  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Please let us know what type of camera and lighting you are using.
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 Posted 01/25/2017  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinDom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, sure, I will post my pictures tomorrow (right now it is 10:40 pm here in Belgium).
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Lighting really is everything. This is the setup I recently started using.

Black felt background, dowels to raise subject off of the background, black PVC to keep light off of the background field, cheap copy stand, cheap photo lights. I backlight the wall behind for shots of proofs and other highly reflective coins. For many other coins direct lighting works good.

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The results are pretty good. Now I just have to re shoot all my older ones LOL!
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Marti, those shots are good and I like your setup, its similar to mine. Except, how did you make the black PVC tube? Also, do you shine your lights directly down onto the coin ontop of the doweling? Or pointed at the wall do they reflect somehow?

Also, Dominik, taking photos of coins really is about the lighting and the steadiness of the camera. Even if you have the camera on the sturdiest of copy stands, and you manually press the shutter button, it still creates a TINY blur, so its best to hook software up on your computer to manually control the shutter button from your PC, therefore eliminating any minute shakings of the camera. Another tip, to fill up the huge pixel display that cameras now shoot, it is best to have the coin fill up most of the viewfinder, but you have to get quite close without a long lens and therefore the camera will not be able to get much light in and that = bad pictures. If you can get the camera further away, purchase a longer lens 55mm-105mm, then the coin can still fill up the viewfinder with the added zoom of the lens. But, all in all, its ALOT of trial and error :D
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Toby, in the picture above, the lights are pointed at the wall. It makes a HUGE difference for proofs and other really reflective coins. The settings I programmed for my coin setting will adjust the shutter speed for different light conditions. Also, of course using a shutter timer is key.

The black PVC tube was simply purchased at home depot in the plumbing department as is. No modifications. Underneath the felt is a piece of wood with a nail through it that is glued tight, and the dowels have holes drilled in them to slide onto the nail.

For other coins, not so reflective like the one below, direct lighting works fine.
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Edit: this Galba image has now been replaced with a back lit shot.
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The thing I like about the pvc tube is it makes everything around the coin completely black. I dont have to photoshop the field around the coin after. These shots above have had no modification in photoshop at all other than cut/paste and cropping.
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For me, using direct lighting on proofs always would result in reflections in the field and grainy features on the cameos like below:

Compare this photo with the 2016 proof set above. same setup but the only difference is backlighting the wall.

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Edit: Guess I can post them side by side here. Below is with backlighting.
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Ah I see, thanks for that. The first photo of the proofs is definitely better. Much clearer. In fact, you can't even see the hair on the top left Quarter Dollar in the second photo. Well I'm going to get me some of that tubing, because your Roman coin photo looks fantastic. I've got tiny little corks that I use to balance coins on, but I'm going to steal your ingenuity if you don't mind, and go look for some doweling :P
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Nice hope you have good luck with it. the pipe is 4 inches high and the dowel is 2.5 inches high so the subject is below the top of the tube. Seems to work best.
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I just did some experimenting and shot some non proofs using the back lighting off the wall. I must say I think it works better in almost all circumstances. I re-shot my whole 12 Caesars gallery using that technique instead of direct lighting and they all turned out much better. I think I will be using this lighting for all my shots now.

Here is one of them.

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Also note that the Galba image I posted above has been replaced with a back-lit shot, so if you are seeing this for the first time or have cleared your browser cache, you are no longer looking at a directly lit image.
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Wow, going to try out this technique. what kind of lights are you using?
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MartiVltori,
Are you using the term "backlighting" properly? I think that would be "indirect" or "reflected" lighting? Your photos using the light reflected off the wall make your coin photos look great.
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