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Pillar of the Community
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Can't locate this in Krause, so is it 19th century?   Edited by Sap
04/05/2008 04:49 am
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Having said that I can't find it in the Standard catalog, it has become apparent
to me that not everything can be found in one particular edition - there are the odd few coins missing here and there...?
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The coin says it's from the "Republic", so logically it can't have been struck before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1912.
These coins, for reasons which Krause and Yeoman only know, are listed in amongst the Provincials, rather than the main Republic section. Try Hunan Province, KM/Y# 400, variety thereof.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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Can't find Hunan section either.. :( I have 2006 edition
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03/29/2008 11:46 am
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33rd edition? Same as mine. Page 369 and 370.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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You mean Guyana & Haiti? I'm not sure if we have the same book! Krause Publications (I assumed this means Standard Catalog?) 11th Official Edition Edited by Thomas Michael and George S. Cuhaj ----------- I probably don't even have a proper SC  Edited by NumisMattyUk
03/30/2008 1:21 pm
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I'm not sure if we have the same book!
Not if page 370 is way down in "G-H".  This is the 2006 33rd ed. of Krause. The cover of mine looks slightly different (maybe I've got an overseas cover) but it is purple, has 2335 pages, and is the usual "phone-book" size. "Krause Publications" is the company that produces the Krause catalogues, as well as lots of other books (like the Pick banknote catalogues). The book normally referred to as "Krause" always has "Standard Catalog of World Coins" as the title up the top. The 11th edition of Krause came out sometime around 1984.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Oh, it's not Krause by the fact that it lists coins thta are up to date i.e. 21st Century.
Looks like Krause Publications are up to a few more things than would seem to meet the eye...
I bought this after Christmas in Borders bookshop in York, North Yorkshire..
In any case it has proven to have mostly the same values..
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Anyway, enough about the books, back to discussing the coin...  As I said, it's a variant of KM/Y# 400. There are 11 recorded die varieties in Krause, as well as a couple of varieties in brass and a variety with "20" instead of "TWENTY". Now I've had time to sit down and strain my eyes and brain comparing the pictures of the varieties (and trying to match the largely inadequate descriptions given for each variety), I'd conclude it's a KM/Y# 400.3, "25 small curls in ribbon at base of plant". It's only similar to 400.5, "thin ribbon" (number of curls unknown). Both 400.3 and 400.5 have the same CV, anyway. The coin bears no date, but Krause attributes them to 1919. CV $3 in VF. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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On (131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed , there is a "ten cash" coin from 1920.
~10 cash coin link~ http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/coin.php?image=img1/42-306&desc=Chinese%20Empire/Republic%20y306%2010%20Cash%20(1920)
I also see that coin you have there and would think of the two coming from the same time period as the design is quite alike.
~20 cash coin link~ http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/coin.php?image=img1/42-400_2&desc=Chinese%20Empire/Republic%20y400.2%2020%20Cash%20(nd)
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks quite like Y# 400 to me too. Also nice research again from Sap, if only I could follow it a bit better :>/
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Wasn't Tiawan the "Republic of China" when it split from
The People's Republic of China?
I have heard Taiwan refered to with the initials "ROC".
Just a guess.
Nevermind...
I should have read ALL the posts,
I would have seen Sap's research has apparently
paid off.
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04/05/2008 01:00 am
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ratio411 asked:
Wasn't Tiawan the "Republic of China" when it split from
The People's Republic of China?
Yes, Taiwan's official name (according to Taiwan, anyway) is "Republic of China". However, it didn't split from Mainland China, "Mainland China" split from the Republic of China. The Taiwan government is a direct continuation of the old pre-Communist government that used to control all of China. For years after the Communist victory on the mainland, Taiwan-ROC was still regarded as the "real government of China", with Communist PRC China considered to be rebel provinces. World opinion gradually changed, culminating in Nixon's visit to Red China. Since then, most of the world's opinion has inverted, with Red China now the official government, and Taiwan the rebel province. But the ROC's coins that have been issued since 1949 almost never have English on them like this coin has - rather, this is distinctive of their period in control of the mainland. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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