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United States
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3.7 grams, 22 mm. Seems like debased silver to me. I guess this design was used in the 1790s. Any suggestion as to value of minted coin -- 1 pfenning, 2 pfenning, 1/24 thaler, etc.?   |
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Poland
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It says S.W.u.E., so yes, it's Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach.
Krause gives the weight of 2.12 grams for the 1/24 thaler which is the largest silver denomination of this type. So this must be one of the smaller ones.
I guess a heller will be to small. That leaves the 1, 1-1/2, 2, 3, and 4 pfennig from the 1790s-1820s (as the shield has straight sides).
Perhaps someone has detailed data or one of these coins to compare their dimensions?
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Russian Federation
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Numista says 1-1/2 pfennig is 21.5 mm and 2 pfennige is 23 mm and 4.6 grams (no weight given for the 1-1/2 pfennig). I'd guess it's probably the smaller one, but hard to say. Edited by january1may
02/04/2017 2:01 pm
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Germany
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I just checked on the weight of my minors from Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. 1 Pfennig has 1.94 grams, 1 1/2 Pfennige has 3.07 grams, 2 Pfennige has 4.06 grams and 3 Pfennige more than 6 grams. You have to keep in mind though that minting coins at that time was not really a standardized process and planchets of these minor copper coins therefore not always had the same weight. However, I'd say it is a 2 Pfennige coin...
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Poland
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The weight of the 3 pf coin is given as 7.5 grams at one website, that's over double of what you have.
Based on the data given by Potsdam, I'd also guess it's a lightweight and worn specimen of the 2 pf.
Edited by DL20K
02/05/2017 07:06 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your specs are close to the 1 1/2 pfennig of 1799/1807. The 2 pfennig of 1803/1807 weighs in at over 4.5g and is 23mm vs. 3.9g and 21.5mm for the 1 1/2 pfennig.
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Valued Member
Germany
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@paralyse Where did you find the information about the weight of 1 1/2 Pfennige? Even KM states only 2.90 - 3.10 grams for KM#151.
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United States
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The value is <$3. These don't have much collector value in that condition, and a German States collector wouldn't be interested. You might be able to sell it to someone else as a novelty.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Potsdam, you are indeed correct. Apologies for my error.
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