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1964 Toned Kennedy Grade?

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 Posted 02/17/2017  6:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Talk about a hard series to grade. Even tougher when they are toned. What grade is this? Also where are the high points on these coins? I tried to use Photograde but without any kind of explanation, I can't determine the grade on Kennedy's. Thanks!



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 Posted 02/17/2017  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't really tell toning from you're pix. It looks more like ED to me, a tarnish effect from moisture, possibly seasalt moisture? They look like candidates for a skinny dip!
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 Posted 02/17/2017  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see your point about grading Kennedy's . I'll stab this one at AU-53 . I would say the high points on these are the details in his hair and shield on reverse.
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 Posted 02/18/2017  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very difficult to tell, but the shield certainly does look very worn, though I don't collect these so am unsure of possible striking issues. All considered, I'd agree it looks low AU.
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 Posted 02/18/2017  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GateKeep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my experience, high points are;

Obverse:
- details in hair just below the part
- cheek, near lips/nose
- jawline, between ear and chin

Reverse:
- Central tail feathers
- tips of arrows
- right wing tip

I'm not sure I'd call what you've got there toning, and I don't find it terribly attractive. It definitely makes it hard to gauge wear in these pics.

The obverse looks decent. It might have some slight wear along the part, but the reflection there makes it hard to tell. The cheek might have some wear, but it could just be blotchy from that toning/spotting/whatever it is.

The reverse is less impressive. The tail feathers, shield lines, and arrows all look fairly worn.

I'm not too great on grading, but I can't see this one reaching MS, and given how many Kennedys there are in MS/GEM state I don't think I'd buy it except maybe for the silver.

For comparison here's a toned 1964 Kennedy from my collection. I should note that some think it may be artificially toned, but I'm not sure one way or the other.

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 Posted 02/20/2017  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nido_the_collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
discraacting toning and blurry pics sorry
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