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 Posted 03/02/2017  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Coinsplus, that's interesting and yes indeed, somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind I recall that occurring. After RCM worked a deal with RBC, other banks began cashing them but shipped the coins to RBC for compensation.

Also, the Currency Act lists no Canadian coin ever being demonitized.

Thank you for sharing your insight.
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 Posted 03/03/2017  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockfish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coinsplus. it seems not that the 1976 series was demonetized, but that it wasn't really fully monetized in the first place! Anyway, it stands as a good lesson on the strange grey area that NCLT lives in as far as getting the face value back.
Think I'll cash some in - though I do love the maple leaves, the canoe, the polar bear, rudolph, Santa....Jeez, maybe I love em all after all....
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 Posted 05/01/2017  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@rockfish

I like all of them too. I have placed them in the 20/25 face value box offered by RCM. I also kept one each of the $100 face value series and kept 2 of each of the $200.00 face value coins as well.

I am taking my chances and will keep all.
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 Posted 05/01/2017  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockfish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that box still around? I'd love to get one.
I ended up keeping one of each and doubles of all my favourites and with the trade in picked up a gorgeous $100 Canadian gold. My LCS guy gave me full value, but knew I was trading not selling. He said a lot of dealers are not offering full value. I kept all of my canoe ones. The design is so calmly eerie - like a fine art piece in your palm.
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 Posted 05/01/2017  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is that box still around? I'd love to get one.


Instead of that box, consider getting this box:

Presentation case for 35 Canadian "$20 for $20" silver coins

http://www.thecoinshoppe.ca/present...ilver-coins/

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**Looks great, wooden
**Discounted
**Lighthouse
**Canadian dealer
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 Posted 05/01/2017  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@rockfish

Silveroid recommends a great wooden box which is excellent. I put mine in that RCM issue box with the pics of the coins. It is a cardboard box and you can place the certificates underneath coins in its own compartment. The problem was the canoe card was too wide to fit. So, when complaints came in, RCM issued replacement cards for the canoe certificates to fit.

CC&C still sells it at issue price. They also carry the wooden box that silveroid suggests. Prior to RCM issuing new canoe certificate for the canoe, I just inserted underneath the plastic container the box comes in. No big problem. CC&C offers free shipping on orders over 150. The coins shoppe offers free shipping over 200. The cardboard box was 29.95. Good luck.
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 Posted 05/01/2017  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockfish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I'm looking for!
Yeah baby, yeah!
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 Posted 05/04/2017  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucv13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unloaded mine at the bank last summer and bought my 48 SD with the funds
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 Posted 05/05/2017  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Silveroid for the link. I ordered a presentation case today for $US 37.70 including shipping.

Finally a home for my coins.

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 Posted 05/18/2017  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Received my case and happy with the purchase for the price. It is nowhere near the quality of RCM's collector case but again, for the price...

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PS: coins are not in any particular order.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now in a particular order...

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 Posted 05/21/2017  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting the CBC article SPP- Ottawa. I'm not sure I agree with a lot of it and especially what Henry Nienhuis, president of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association had to say. "At the very beginning of the series, people purchased them thinking that they . could go to a store and actually spend them," he said from Woodbridge, Ont. But banks and shops won't touch them, and lately "the novelty is worn off."
I have the every Face value coin in my collection and can take them to my bank tomorrow and cash them in if I wanted.
I think the reason most people were cashing them in is for credit card rewards and personal reasons not the price of silver. I'm not an expert and maybe I'm looking at it wrong but I really don't care what the price of silver is as long as the mint honors the face value of the coin. If in the future they decide not to honor the face value I'll be off to my bank to cash them in. In the mean time I'll enjoy my collection.
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 Posted 05/22/2017  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If in the future they decide not to honor the face value I'll be off to my bank to cash them in.

The banks that accept them only do so as agents of the mint, the mint pays them $20 plus a handling fee. Within a microsecond of the mints decision not to honor them the banks will follow suit. If the handling fee the mint pays is reduced to a point where it becomes unprofitable to accept these the banks will refuse to cash them.There is no law in place that banks must accept them. I believe that in the not too distant future you will only be able to redeem them as payment towards new mint products.

Time to order my Lighthouse case before I forget, down to about US$30 now.
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 Posted 05/22/2017  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One has to think the RCM's crack legal teams advice for these xforx coins, due to their marketing promise comes with unlimited liability for future redeeming or the RCM would have instantly ceased redemption by now. Yes when has the banks ever offer any service for free, you can't make 2 billion every 90 days by being kind and generous.
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