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Got this one from another member. He suggested I get it verified as he didn't have loop when he 1st got it.I am lousy at verifying errors like this on coins this small. So I need a little help. Thought it could be 1MM-012 on Coppercoins site. But after giving it a bath I am not so sure now. So here it is (after acetone bath) Hope photos are good enough.   This is as close as I can get with my photo setup.   So what do you think? All opinions welcome. Thanks...Mont. |
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Glad you did, my bad check right below the upper serif, see how it kinda j-hooks? Think it's 016:  Well, it IS an RPM! Edited by Crazyb0
03/08/2017 11:15 pm
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Think it's 016: Could be,the MM look really close...but this coin doesn't have the die chip on obverse nor the die scratch on the reverse (the only 2 markers I checked) needed for 016. |
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Yea, that's where CC's falls short. Depends on die states of both sides. Remember, both dies aren't necessarily changed at the same time. I've had times where a coin is obviously an MDS from the obverse marker/placement,kind of rpm, but reverse had no MDS marker match at all.
I'm basing this ID on two factors, 1) shape/type, the direction of the splits matches as do the shapes with the hooking of the vertical bar at top. 2). The placement matches as does the CCW rotation plus the closeness to the date. Other MM's are farther away, that's always a big key there. I'm @ 99% sure of this one now, because of these two factors without coin in hand. Markers are really only 100% accurate with exact die stage coin and coin grade factors in too.
That's why I started buying "BU" rolls, primo examples. Except when you buy a quart jar of listed as 60's BU's, wound up w/ 21 rolls of 1963P's, ouch, need any?
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I was initially leaning toward 016 but, on Coppercoins the 012 says: "marker photos: LDS" but when you click on it, the pics say "MDS". The 016 is consistent at MDS pics. The 012 looks to have a more prominently split lower serif. That's why I am leaning in the 016 direction. But, I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about at this point!  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Well it is not the 1949D-1MM-016. While the location look correct vertically, horizontally it is incorrect.  |
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Thanks guys!
Wow coop. Thanks for the graphic.
So we know it isn't 012 or 016...guess I got some more research to do. I will nail this down
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We will probably have to wait till John Wexler post his over 300 RPMs for 1960-D cents to see if we can match it. I have his book on the 1959-D cents. There are 111 different dies for that year.
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We will probably have to wait till John Wexler post his over 300 RPMs for 1960-D cents to see if we can match it  This is a 1949-D. Wexler's Coin and Die Varieties has over 60 different ones listed for this year. http://doubleddie.com/1717074.htmlI have search Coppercoins. 1MM-012 and 1MM-016 were the closest but as we have discussed none quite matches right. I have also searched Variety Vista to no avail. That just leaves the Wexler's site. |
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I have another question on this coin if you don't mind.
How would you describe this RPM?
I noticed when looking through listing they are described by rotation direction CW or CCW, D/D or D/D/D, and a compass direction. I am assuming the compass direction is how the D/D appears?
I would call this one a CCW rotated D/D but unsure of the direction i.e NE or E.
Thanks again...Mont.
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Wow, ya mean I gave away an unlisted one!  Good luck, MontCollector! I guess the mintmark stamp for 016 was used on another die? Edited by Crazyb0
03/10/2017 9:12 pm
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Wow, ya mean I gave away an unlisted one! I wouldn't quite call it unlisted yet. This is the first RPM I have tried to track down...it is probably just my inexperience making it hard to track down. I have learned one thing already though. The reason I haven't found any in my searching is because of my eyes and loop. My eye sight sucks and my loop isn't powerful enough for me to see these on coins this small. I couldn't even see this one until I blew it up with my camera. Gonna have to start sliding them all under my camera lens from now on before I toss em. |
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