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1975 Steel Penny Very Good Condition

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I did do some research and found that a larger batch was minted (supposedly) in 1974. The mint closed the 1975 minting almost as soon as it began.

1.5 million aluminum cents were struck in 1974 at the Philadelphia Mint, none were released into circulation and virtually all of them were melted. Several were given to members of Congress on the financial committee that oversees mint operations. Most were returned but at least one was not and the Toven Specimen is the only one known to exist in private hands. Even though none were officially struck at Denver in 1974, one was found a couple years ago but it has since been seized by the US Mint when it hit the auction block. This sole example from Denver was not an official striking and was most likely produced through "mint sport" by a rogue employee. None of the 1975s are known to currently exist but they would have been struck at Philadelphia as were all trial strikes at the time.

Obviously, the 3 gram weight of your coin definitively eliminates the aluminum possibility. The weight also almost certainly excludes it as a steel planchet as well but a magnet test would verify it. Post-Mint plating is the most likely explanation but there is a very small chance the coin was struck on a planchet intended for a foreign coin. That determination would require metal composition testing and extensive research to find a weight and size match for a foreign planchet.
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Just a plated coin. Still someone did a nice job of it. I'd keep as a novelty.
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II called Heritage Auction and spoke with a rep there. She verified the 1974 but agreed that there have always been rumors of a few in 1975 coming through. My husband is looking at it right now under my microscope and says that there are a couple of tiny gouges in the beard and it looks like the same colored silver underneath it as well.
I think that I will send it in to be certified as that might give me an answer or two. I like it so I will probably keep it.
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Personally I would not send it to a TPG but that is of course up to you.

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A Steel cent should weigh 2.7 grams, Copper should weigh 3.11 grams.

In my opinion, it is plated with something, but the weight is a little off, or your scale is off.

Let us know what you find out about it.
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Pretty simple, if it's steel, you can easily tell with a fridge magnet. It's obviously too heavy to be aluminum. It's the right weight for a copper cent. I've heard of a few stray cents getting loose without the final copper plating and they sort of look like that if you google it. Another possibility was the copper plating was removed (i.e. electrolysis). I also found this tidbit out there in the web (shrugs shoulders).


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There are different ways to change the color of pennies the easiest is to just heat them, lay a penny on your hot wood burner for a while and it will turn a dark gray/silver color.
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This is her husband. So far it didn't react to a fridge magnet. Tomorrow we will get a good magnet and see.
As for photoshopping, I can hardly figure out my phone and we have to many other things to do.
As for the electrolysis, I didn't see any copper under the surface where it was scratched. Unfortunately the photo we posted was resized so it could be uploaded.
We will do some more work on it tomorrow, but keep the ideas coming. (This is a 1975 and they didn't clad the copper until 82?)
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(This is a 1975 and they didn't clad the copper until 82?)


Yes, copper-plated zinc cents started mid-1982 so this should be 95% copper.

To me, there are only two feasible possibilities:

- A well-executed plating job
- A cent struck on a planchet intended for a foreign coin

The second could be quite valuable so I think it's worth investigating further.
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I think that I am leaning toward the unverified cent (s) that allegedly made it through in 1975. The 1974 were mostly melted.
This is a great way to cut my teeth in the realm of coins.
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I think that I am leaning toward the unverified cent (s) that allegedly made it through in 1975. The 1974 were mostly melted.


It cannot be made of Aluminum, it's too heavy.

We see these here all the time, different years.
Many, many cents were plated and used in jewelry, bracelets, belts, and things like that. There is an extremely good chance that is what you have.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to add that the first possibility I gave is the most likely and second is much less likely.

Also, I didn't include aluminum cents because the weight given already disqualified that possibility.
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Sounds like you really really really want it to be a 1974 aluminum cent that somehow got a 1975 date. I'd get it weighed on a precision scale, but the stated weight so far eliminates the aluminum idea. Besides, do you really want it to be aluminum? You won't be able to keep it. The U.S. government recalled all aluminum cents. All are considered government property and subject to seizure by the U.S. Secret Service.

Turning a Penny Silver? So if your silver penny isn't a 1944 steel cent or planchet error or aluminum 1974, then in all likelihood, you have a penny that has been plated with silver, pewter, or mercury.

Countless pennies have been altered in appearance with the application of silver-colored (as well as gold-colored) metals. Whether done as a science experiment in school or purely for the sake of novelty, plating pennies has long been a popular thing to do.
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My husband is looking at it right now under my microscope and says that there are a couple of tiny gouges in the beard and it looks like the same colored silver underneath it as well.

Consideder that it may have been plated AFTER it got it's gouges/hits/scratches.
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Curious--how did you acquire this coin?
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and aluminum has to be ruled out because of the weight.

Keep up posted but I am thinking it's copper plated.
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