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Is This A Genuine 1853 California Gold Fractional?

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I was given this by a nice women who was in my best coin dealer friend's coin shop. It looks like an 1853, but I have no knowledge of these whatsoever.


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You may have gotten lucky young man. On pg 400 of the 2016 Red Book it talks about small fractional gold coins and tokens, said some were reissued in 1883 with predated coins. It just may be a real gold coin, maybe up to 85% pure.


Have to research that, know there's some here that'll know!

Keep my fingers crossed!
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What's the size of it? I'm just curious, as I don't know anything about California fractional gold except that there are fakes. And yes, I found that out after I bought one The fake I have is really tiny. Mine looked totally different than this, though, FYI.
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Weight: .3 grams

Diameter: 10mm
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http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/10683
Your gold coin is maybe an 1865.
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BG 822 .28g 9.6mm or Lee 22A Rarity 4
OBV matches.
REV. 2pairs of barriers in each branch, repunched date. 5 is low

NOte: 822a same dies, off-metal strike in what appears to be somewhat impure copper. Rarity 8
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So which one do you think it is? The picture on coinfacts pretty much matches.
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NOte: 822a same dies, off-metal strike in what appears to be somewhat impure copper. Rarity 8


What do you mean by this?
I am pretty sure it is 822 or 822A.
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It looks like the remains of solder removal on the reverse.
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NOte: 822a same dies, off-metal strike in what appears to be somewhat impure copper. Rarity 8

Your coin is a BG822 or also known as Lee22a, Very little gold are in these types of coins, usually 10k or less and often times much less.
822a is a trial pieces made with copper as stated in the book.
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