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Morgan 1882 -CC Toning On One Side Only

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This coin is part of the collection I received from my Grandmother. It is a Mint sealed Morgan 1882 CC with toning on one side only. Is this typical of mint sealed coins? Is there a common reason why it would only tone on one side?

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Morgan-1882--CC-Toning-On-One-Side-Only

Morgan-1882--CC-Toning-On-One-Side-Only

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The toned side was exposed to chemicals, heat, or a combination of the two that caused that tone, quite possibly that side was against a mint bag.

The side that remained unaffected by toning was protected, probably flat against another coin.
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Is this typical of mint sealed coins?

That coin sat in a canvas bag in a Treasury vault for about 90 years before it was put in the GSA slab.
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The toning is the reason it was not sold as an "Uncirculated" Morgan.
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Thanks for the info. I didn't consider the fact that it sat for so long. In this instance, would the toning hinder its value?
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Absolutely not in this case. Original bag toning on the obverse of a Morgan dollar is very desirable and always commands a premium.
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Thanks Dave. Would it be worth the effort to send it in for grading? Given how it came into my possession I'm not really looking to sell, but I would be curious to find out what it would grade.

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I think so, yes.



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Would it be worth the effort to send it in for grading?

Probably, but I would only recommend sending it to NGC. They are the only TPG that grades GSA Morgans in the original hard case, the rest crack them out and place them in the TPG slab. NGC wraps a tamper-resistant adhesive band around the black slab with the grade listed, preserving the original GSA packaging.
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Probably, but I would only recommend sending it to NGC. They are the only TPG that grades GSA Morgans in the original hard case, the rest crack them out and place them in the TPG slab. NGC wraps a tamper-resistant adhesive band around the black slab with the grade listed, preserving the original GSA packaging.

PCGS actually started encapsulating GSA slabs a couple of years ago.

Here's an example from ebay (Not my listing)
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As mentioned NGC wraps their grade label around the GSA case and last I knew PCGS put the GSA case inside another case making it even bulkier. I would recommend having it graded by NGC if you feel compelled and it would make it more liquid if you should ever decide to part with it.
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Good advice.
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Probably, but I would only recommend sending it to NGC. They are the only TPG that grades GSA Morgans in the original hard case, the rest crack them out and place them in the TPG slab.

ANACS also certifies them in the original case using a sticker type arrangement.
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Since you don't plan on selling it I wouldn't spend the money on grading it. Grade it yourself, take it to a coin dealer,check out PCGS photograding site. Half the fun is being able to get close yourself and the reasons for the grades.
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