Nice Better Grade Washington Quarter

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LibertyEagle20 Pillar of the Community United States 1189 Posts	Posted 03/23/2017 11:03 pm http://www.ebay.com/itm/36193572282...RK:MEBIDX:IT I see they do mention they believe most coins are cleaned, but calling this a better grade is a lie. You would think an experienced seller would be more honest about the grade of coins they are selling. Report this Post to the Staff

Fuzzy317 Moderator United States 14463 Posts	Posted 03/23/2017 11:16 pm Better grade than what, FR01 That coin looks so cleaned Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 03/23/2017 11:20 pm Eeewwwwwww! Better than what? It reminded me of an episode of The Andy Griffith Show in which Barney's cousin Virgil polishes the cell keys so much they won't open the door. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Edited by spru 03/24/2017 01:44 am Report this Post to the Staff
Nickel Guy Pillar of the Community United States 604 Posts	Posted 03/23/2017 11:30 pm Quote: Under our assumption, we will gladly give you our opinion if a coin has been cleaned upon your request. Another words, we won't put it in the description if it's been cleaned. You have to read our fine print and then ask us if we think it has been cleaned. Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 01:50 am Just for fun (and clarity), I asked them if it has been cleaned. I'm anxiously awaiting the response! In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Report this Post to the Staff
Justinokay Pillar of the Community United States 564 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 02:08 am Quote: That coin looks so cleaned Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 03:28 am Obviously, you don't need to know coins to sell coins. Report this Post to the Staff
kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 08:46 am It's better than a sharp stick in the eye. Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 09:01 am This has got to be the worst coin this seller has listed in a long time . when I look at E-Bay listings I just pass this guy right up . He's known for some crappy coins . This coin has not only been cleaned but also highly polished . Report this Post to the Staff
Chase007 Pillar of the Community United States 7510 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 10:35 am I have bought from this seller a few times and NO MORE !!they do clean their silver coins and list it as high grades! use a lot of FILE PHOTOS and claim the coin you buy is the one pictured! you dispute the accuracy of the description versus the coin you got or once you return it seller immediately BLOCKS you! So yes he is One seller to be aware of! Report this Post to the Staff
LibertyEagle20 Pillar of the Community United States 1189 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 11:00 am I remember I saw they had good prices on mint sets a few years ago but charged a high shipping fee. I emailed asking about combined shipping and it felt like I was talking to a robot. Their prices may appear good on the surface but you could buy 100 items and they will charge you 100 shipping charges. You can see in their feedback that they are a terrible seller. I feel bad for all those people who think they bought nice coins and don't know they are cleaned. Report this Post to the Staff
Debrajc Pillar of the Community United States 4211 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 2:49 pm Yep...a seller to pass up for sure. I made the mistake once buying a coin from them. I didn't return it but crossed them off my list real quick on any future purchases. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 4:49 pm Spread the word. Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 6:03 pm I got a rather lengthy reply (most of it not about this particular coin): Quote: In my opinion this coin has been cleaned to some degree during it's lifetime. When I see a beautiful silver coin that is over 70 years old with no sign of tarnish or coloration, I suspect that the coin has been cleaned. I can't prove or disprove it. Other than detecting wear on a coin that is fully brilliant whether or not a coin has been "cleaned" is not scientifically provable. If you send a "dirty" coin into a grading service to be "conserved" and let them do the "conserving" they will charge you for their work CLEANING the coin and then charge you for grading the coin. When they clean a coin they regard it "conserved". If you send a grading service a coin they believe may have been cleaned by anyone else, they will call it "cleaned". TODAY ALL THE APPROVED ebay GRADING SERVICES DIP THOUSANDS OF COINS IN SOLUTIONS TO REMOVE TARNISH THEN GIVE THEM A SOLID UNCLEANED GRADE. "Cleaning" removes contaminants from the surface of a coin that would, over time, "eat away" at the surface. Removing contaminants from the surface of a coin, then sealing the coin in a holder to fully protect it from being mishandled or coming into contaminants as subtle as air and moisture, combined with catalysts like light and heat will one day, become the approved method in the coin industry of housing/protecting a coin as it is being done today by the coin grading services for a fee. In the present day "your coin has been cleaned" is used as an excuse by dealers to beat the seller down in price when a dealer is buying. However "cleaning" is discounted or never mentioned when a dealer is selling a coin. The purists want every scrap of dirt that can't be blown away with one's breath to be left on a coin so as to preserve it in it's "natural state". When you consider the ultimate/potential damage that any contaminant will do over time to a coin, it only seems logical to remove all contaminants if the goal is to preserve and protect the coin over time. Theconsignmenthub ( ebay seller ID) If anyone is interested. I personally have not done business with this seller but, now I know! In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Report this Post to the Staff
cuzzx Valued Member United States 411 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 6:05 pm when I sent him a statement asking about the coin possible being cleaned this is what he sent me back. In my opinion this coin has been cleaned to some degree during it's lifetime. When I see a beautiful silver coin that is over 70 years old with no sign of tarnish or coloration, I suspect that the coin has been cleaned. I can't prove or disprove it. Other than detecting wear on a coin that is fully brilliant whether or not a coin has been "cleaned" is not scientifically provable. If you send a "dirty" coin into a grading service to be "conserved" and let them do the "conserving" they will charge you for their work CLEANING the coin and then charge you for grading the coin. When they clean a coin they regard it "conserved". If you send a grading service a coin they believe may have been cleaned by anyone else, they will call it "cleaned". TODAY ALL THE APPROVED ebay GRADING SERVICES DIP THOUSANDS OF COINS IN SOLUTIONS TO REMOVE TARNISH THEN GIVE THEM A SOLID UNCLEANED GRADE. "Cleaning" removes contaminants from the surface of a coin that would, over time, "eat away" at the surface. Removing contaminants from the surface of a coin, then sealing the coin in a holder to fully protect it from being mishandled or coming into contaminants as subtle as air and moisture, combined with catalysts like light and heat will one day, become the approved method in the coin industry of housing/protecting a coin as it is being done today by the coin grading services for a fee. In the present day "your coin has been cleaned" is used as an excuse by dealers to beat the seller down in price when a dealer is buying. However "cleaning" is discounted or never mentioned when a dealer is selling a coin. The purists want every scrap of dirt that can't be blown away with one's breath to be left on a coin so as to preserve it in it's "natural state". When you consider the ultimate/potential damage that any contaminant will do over time to a coin, it only seems logical to remove all contaminants if the goal is to preserve and protect the coin over time. Report this Post to the Staff
Chase007 Pillar of the Community United States 7510 Posts	Posted 03/24/2017 6:29 pm Yup! that's this seller's typical mentality,it goes to show that he clean's his coins and justify's it with his nonsense tutorials! he need's to be avoided. Just as Coinfrog said " spread the word " But the kicker is that he knowingly avoids to disclose the fact that the COINS ARE CLEANED, SHAMEFUL! Edited by Chase007 03/24/2017 6:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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