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When we take about whether it is a Modern or a Classic coin where is the year it changes?

OR what year do moderns start.?
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When referring to US coins, Classic coins are ones that depict Lady Liberty, while most moderns feature an actual person.
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totally.
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So Mercury dimes would be considered classic but Lincoln wheat cents that are actually older are not?
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When referring to US coins, Classic coins are ones that depict Lady Liberty, while most moderns feature an actual person.
That is pretty much it. There is no specific year, considering the starting years for each of the modern issues range over 100 years.


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So Mercury dimes would be considered classic but Lincoln wheat cents that are actually older are not?
Yup.

It would be easier if they changed all the designs at the same time. One clear year to divide classic from modern.
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Huuuum interesting
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Cool. I was wondering the same thing.
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When referring to US coins, Classic coins are ones that depict Lady Liberty, while most moderns feature an actual person.
Basically this, with the occasional exception (ASEs are definitely modern, even though they depict Liberty [and similarly for most other US bullion]; while Buffalo nickels are usually classic, even though the person on them is not Liberty).
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Regarding US coins I've seen a number of articles written on this and a popular cut-off from Classic to Modern is 1933 to 1935 when mintages ballooned.

Here's a good article about it written by Greg Reynolds

Part 1:
http://www.coinweek.com/us-coins/mo...ra-part-one/

Part 2:
http://www.coinweek.com/opinion/coi...-era-part-2/

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while Buffalo nickels are usually classic, even though the person on them is not Liberty.
But generally accepted as analogous to Liberty, as it is not meant to represent a specific person.
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Regarding US coins I've seen a number of articles written on this and a popular cut-off from Classic to Modern is 1933 to 1935 when mintages ballooned.
I have seen that and find it an appealing concept. However, it is not practical for separating forum posts, where lines between series are easier kept.

Do remember that the CCF definitions of Classic and Modern are born of practicality and not global consensus.
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Early - Liberty bust types
Classic - Seated Liberty, Civil War designs, and Morgans
Late Classic - Barbers and designs introduced 1909-1921
Early Modern - wheat cents after 1930s, Franklin halves, and silver counterparts of modern pocket change
Modern - 1964 to mid 1990s (computer engraving and booming commemorative series)
Late Modern - 1990s and later
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I stop at 1964 even though that cuts many continued denominations of like design type.

We all like consistency but on some subjects, such as the classic era cutoff, our individual collections will help us determine that preferred separation.
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We all like consistency but on some subjects, such as the classic era cutoff, our individual collections will help us determine that preferred separation.
Well said.
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If the coin has an actual dead person on it, it is modern, as well as everything after 1964.
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It appears that we have a lot of different views on where the line is.


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If the coin has an actual dead person on it, it is modern


so what you are saying is 1909 to say 1930 LWC are modern, sorry but I do not think that works.
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