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1854 Arrows Half Dime (error or other ?) Hello, This is my first posting. I recently purchased this 1854 Half Dime that some interesting markings, and I'd like to know how this happened to this coin? I have some ideas, but I'd like to here from people with experience. I don't understand why the coin was graded UNC Details bent. Needless to say my problem isn't with the UNC portion, but with the Details (bent) designation. If the coin is "bent" it is due to how it was struck. I can't see any signs of it being bent. So, it must be a small amount of warpage. This wasn't due to damage after the coin left the mint. It occurred at the mint. Should I send it in for a re-grade? I will post several pictures. In more natural lighting the coin has nice toning, but the LED lighting of the microscope makes the surfaces look pale. Also, some of the lighting from the microscope is glaring on the surface of the holder. All comments welcome. thanks, john             |
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Pillar of the Community
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If NGC says it's bent you can be virtually 100% sure it's bent.
And almost 100% likely that occurred after it left the Mint.
If you resubmit in the current slab you are guaranteed its status won't change.
If you crack it out before you resubmit there's a slight chance it won't get a DETAILS grade -- but I wouldn't bet on it.
BTW, lots of nice die clash markings.
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 to CCF. Very nice die clash obverse and reverse. Is that common for the coin? What if you sent it to PCGS or ANACS? John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Awesome clash marks! If they say it is bent, it is bent, even if it says Uncirculated, someone still could have bent it. Maybe a collector on accident?
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Any reason why NGC did not designate as clashed Dies? just curious.
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Pillar of the Community
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When do they? I have never seen them do it before.
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I agree with the others , if NGC says it's bent, it's bent. A waste of money in my opinion to resubmit. Also, unless you are trying to get a cheap hole filler for a Set you're trying to complete I would stay away from problem coins. They are less collectible and are much less valuable than the same coin in problem free condition, also they are tougher to sell as many collectors will not consider the problem coins for their collection. Hope you didn't over pay. |
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Thanks to everyone for all the helpful replies. It sounds like sending it in for a re-grade is a bad idea.
The next thing for me is to see if I can figure out the nature of the bend. If I look at the reverse of the coin... and hold my mouth just right... I think I see what looks like a dark region that runs from the left side near the T in UNITED ... then between the H in HALF and the D in DIME ... and fading area below the A in HALF. Perhaps that is where the bend/crease is pushing outwards.
I used to have access to an optics lab with interferometry capabilities. That would enable me to profile the topography of both surfaces with high resolution. I might be able to get in there for pizza and beer one night this summer!
Yes... I'm still hung up on the nature of the bend. If it's a crease... then definitely post mint. If it's radial... then maybe it happened at the mint.
Thanks again for all the guidance!
john
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Bedrock of the Community
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No need to re-grade. These tiny coins are very thin and can be slightly bent quite easily. If you can't see the bend then it's clearly a minor issue. The die clashes are awesome and hopefully the details designation got you a good price.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Unlikely NGC would be wrong on the "bent" designation, however it occurred. Fantastic clashing. to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
04/06/2017 4:50 pm
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It's probably more obvious out of the slab sitting flat on a table
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bent sment, I think it looks great.
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Some grading companies will put "Clashed Dies" on the holder if requested.
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