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1851 Large Cent For Grading

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Seller called her EF, so I got her for an EF price BIN. Thoughts on grade?

This coin blows the one in my type set out of the water with a nuke. I'm excited to get her in hand.

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 Posted 04/06/2017  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it could slide into AU but I don't follow the series very closely.
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 Posted 04/07/2017  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like AU sharpness to me.
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The sharpness is AU-58 or better, but the over exposure in the photo makes hard to say much more.
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Very nice. Looking fwd to your in hand pics.
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Sweet looking cent. AU-53 at least. Great looking coin!
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I think it makes AU53
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Certainly no less than 53, maybe 55. Nice pickup.
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I am at AU-58.
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Figured I'd update this thread.

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I would guess low au dets cleaned. Given the level of wear, I think the red showing through is from gunk that was removed in a recent cleaning. Seems to have some verdigris in the lower reverse. Rims look weakly struck and a little beat up. Looks like a coin that saw a little, albeit rough circulation.
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Nope, no cleaning. Not a single hairline on this coin. AU coppers can have bits of red. Have you ever searched through a bucket of wheat cents?
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Not all cleaning produces hairlines. This is a 166 year old coin. The only way that this coins would be red is if there was something covering the red spots that prevented oxidation. That protective gunk was removed. That would explain the red areas.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Well, the color proves that it wasn't dipped. The only forms of cleaning that would satisfy your claims are harmless to the coin (acetone bath, etc.) and thus would not get a details grade.

Also, look at AU/MS old copper. There are PLENTY of examples of 100+ year-old copper coins with residual red luster (and 200 and 300-year old coppers as well). How many do you want me to post? And meny of these were certainly not covered in gunk. I am not seeing how your logic proves anything here.
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Those were stored in ways that limited oxidation. This is clearly a circulated coin. Show me a circulated 166 year old coin that is still red.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Plenty of red on this AU 1874 Indian cent

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Or how about this 1803 large cent?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262617475155
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