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 Posted 04/11/2017  11:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add otto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
These appear to be aluminum. Holed coin is cent-sized. Picked them up in a lot from a seller who believed they are WWII era. I found no such WWII coins. The scans aren't the greatest. Any ideas appreciated.



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 Posted 04/11/2017  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutyfree to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Otto,
The coin without hole is an aluminium 1 sen dated 1940.
The other is a 10 sen made of tin & zinc, dated 1944.
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 Posted 04/11/2017  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller was, in fact, right - one of them is from the WWII era. (The other one might not be, but only barely.)

The holed coin is a 10 sen from 1944 (Showa 19) - Numista entry here.
The un-holed aluminium piece is a 1 sen from 1938 (Showa 13), and corresponds to this Numista entry.

Both are fairly common types, though the aluminium is a less common early date (which might explain why the seller thought it was from the WWII period - Japanese dates are not very obvious).
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 Posted 04/12/2017  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to both of you.
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The seller was, in fact, right - one of them is from the WWII era. (The other one might not be, but only barely.)


Which raises the interesting question when WWII started from the Japanese perspective. 1931 (invasion of Manchuria)? 1937 (invasion of China)?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Pact

Japan's war with China was technically a separate war that happened at the same time as WWII was beginning in Europe. Japan was not an Axis power (and thus not formally part of WWII) until 1940. Same story as the Winter War in Finland. The Finns were fighting the invading Soviets, but that does not mean that Finland was an Axis power in the war.
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 Posted 04/13/2017  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that how the Japanese see WWII? When do they say it began?
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 Posted 04/28/2017  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dnas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just for clarification, the date is worked out like this:

Sh#333;wa = 1926
1926 - 1 + 19 = 1944
1926 - 1 + 13 = 1938

If you look in the Yasukuni Shrine Museum in Tokyo, it refers to the war as the Greater East Asia War.
Japan used the name Greater East Asia War (#22823;#26481;#20124;#25126;#20105;), as chosen by a cabinet decision on 10 December 1941, to refer to both the war with the Western Allies and the ongoing war in China. Also used was the "Fifteen years war", dating from 1931.
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