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Is This A Genuine Plastre?

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Is this a genuine plastre?


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Boy, I don't know...Real one:

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Check ou unknown for sales:

CHINA++1905A+Piastre&_sacat=11116 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk..._sacat=11116

But after looking at both, yours is too mushy of detail on reverse stalks/flowers and Obverse stalks as well, is a cast fake, check for magnetic.




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It's from an ebay listing and I am worried of Chinese fakes
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Appears to be genuine, but harshly cleaned
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Its probably a fake. First you don't indicate the weight. The edge does it appear 100 years old? Notice the raised dots under FRANCAISE suggesting a die cast transfer process. What do we see under the first M in COMMERCE? Chinese forgeries are usually German Silver or Fe/Ni alloys. The tops of the letters or motifs in terms of the surfaces appear as a fine sandpaper type look. Is it the case here? All in my new book "Forgotten Coins" coming out soon in the chapter on Chinese Forgeries.

Could be real? Need more data but IMO less than 50/50 probability. More data is needed other than a pic on these high end Chinese fakes. They are getting real good these modern forgers.

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Just curious John, what raised dots are you talking about? The accents on the C's and privy mark below the first M? I own quite a few of these and they are commonly harshly cleaned. I would be quite surprised if this one was fake based on the photos.
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