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Please Help -- 1888 Morgan Silver Dollar - Real Or Counterfeit ?

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 Posted 04/19/2017  3:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add james0306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am new to the Coin World and will appreciate if someone can help me a little here.

I brought a 1888 Morgan silver dollar from ebay. Along with my another 1887 Morgan dollar, I toned them both with egg yolk so I can use them for magic performance. The 1888 dollar has barely changed color after 2 days(as shown in photos), while another 1887 Morgan dollar turned totally dark in the same sealed container. The both dollars weights around 26.6 gram.

Is this a counterfeit coin? Or some silver coins just can not be toned? Your help is highly appreciated.

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 Posted 04/19/2017  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was probably previously cleaned with a silver polish that contained an anti-tarnish agent. Not likely a counterfeit.
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looks legit to me, appears normal in design, do they weigh about the same? When dropped do the two sound alike. And why on earth deface Lady Morgana! Never heard of using egg to discolor, you attempting to tarnish it?...your 87 may be the fake...some Morgan fakes are plated with multiple layers of lower grade silver, may be why turned quicker...jewelry stores have scales.
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BigSilver,Crazyb0, Thank you very much for the prompt reply.

Both my 1887 and 1888 coins weight as 26.6g. When I did a drop test on my kitchen granite , they both sound the same for me.

I was looking to do coin magic since I was a kid. Per my experience, aged coins are more convincing for my spectators, as many think a new coin is passably a gimmick. That's why I tried to tarnish my coins. I found the egg yolk tarnishing approach from Youtube. As it just need a egg yolk, so I decided to get it a try.

As you have reminded, could you please take a look of my 1887 dollar. See if it's a counterfeit one instead ?


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That would make a good coin magic,it looks real and as stated heavily polished.
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Welcome to CCF~~

If you did all your basic steps to check for authenticity(magnet, weight, size, thickness), and passed all, as far as appearances from the photos, they look genuine. Both are cleaned though.. One should never clean a coin except for few cases, such as heavy corrosion or extra ordinary amount of dirt/grime on a coin.
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Genuine coins, both common, just go do what you will to them. Good fun. Love magic, have a few tricks of my own that stump the grandkids.



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BigSilver, Crazyb0, Justinokay, Chase007, Coconutjoe, Coinfrog, Thank you all for the help.

It's happy to know that I am good for my first coin purchase. The forum is amazing.
Wish you all have a great day.
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Just for fun I purchased two of these fakes. Both are 1889s Morgan silver dollars. I am a silversmith and do lots of casting. The very first thing I noticed was the black paint on them making them look tarnished. They are not magnetic and fail the acid test miserably. The scratched line turns black and breaks apart quickly. When applying nitric directly on the coin it turns blue and pretty much stays that way. I don't believe these were casted though. If so they covered up the sprue really good. Wish I could do that> Ha I'm in shock that ebay even allows this. The action was cancelled shortly after I purchased and was afraid I wouldn't get the garbage things. Later today I'm gonna melt one and see what happens. I can pretty much tell what the metal is by how long it takes to melt.
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