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 Posted 04/13/2008  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the example of how hard it can be when you look at modern yugoslavia since 1990.
Serbia has been Serbia with Kosovo and montenegro, Serbia with Kosovo and without montenegro and Serbia without these both. Are these different countries?
Kosovo and montenegro are nations but use the euro. In fact, it all depends on who your govt is as to whether kosovo exists as a nation in the first place. Also, Kosovo was offically in serbia from 1999-2008 but was controlled by the UN, does that count (doesn't matter they used the euro expect for serbs who used the dinar.)
I find it easier just to collect what comes my way.
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1900 seems to be a popular starting point for OFEC collections, and is what I use for mine.

As others have stated, everyone's list would be different. Even different countries recognise some countries and not others. The thing to do is to put together your definition of what qualifies as a country and apply it to Krause, Wikipedia and the CIA list. (Note that the CIA notebook only includes current countries, and only those that the USA officially recognises!)

Personally I have identified 475 different past and present coin issueing entities including unions since 1900. That doesn't include the 111 that haven't issued coins for various reasons.

I don't include regions of countries, as Sap mentioned, such as the individual princely states of India, or regions of China, Mexico, Argentina, Germany (apart from the 4 separate kingdoms) etc. Or special coinage for leper colonies and so on. I only concentrate on coinage issued by the whole country or dependency. It depends on your feeling on this?

For the 475 entities I have then identified 609 different coinage changes/reforms. I include changes in coinage such as changing from francs to euros or decimalisation. As well as if a country reforms its coinage due to inflation, a change in their political designation or achieves independence and so on.

It's a daunting, challenging but wonderfully rewarding task. And can take years to achieve. Even with unlimited funds, it's unlikely all these coins would become available to buy before August! You may want to make it your 28th birthday instead!

You may also want to start with the 245 current countries in the world (by my definition), of which 227 have issued coins. This list of 245 is made up of 192 UN members, The Vatican, 43 independent territories/regions etc of other countries and 9 partially recognised countries (i.e. recognised by many countries but not all)

If you would like a copy of my lists (on excel) as a starting point then let me know your email address and I will be happy to send it to you.

How many do you have so far? Of my complete list of 609 I now only need 2, but they are pretty hard to come by! One is a certain period of Bhutan (You should look up their coins they are very interesting!)

The other is for Italian Somaliland for 1925. These come up at auction once in a while and generally sell for about $1500 each!

Good Luck!
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