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Jaufernute New Member Australia 2 Posts	Posted 04/28/2017 12:27 am Hi first post so I collect coins and I've got these 2 florins that my dad found in an old pub so he tried cleaning them with something and left them somewhere. (He didnt know what to do with them and this was about 5 years ago). So these florins developed this black coat and when I was younger I scraped some of it off with a paper clip. There are scratches on the obverse of one of them which was a 1928 with 6 pearls or so. (pictures below) I was wondering what I should do with them (I also have shillings, three pence, etc in the same condition) and if there is someway I can remove the coat without damaging the value or the coin etc (and are they worth anything?). All help/advice is much appreciated! 1928 1928 1924 1924 Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 04/28/2017 08:28 am I am reasonably certain that it has been subjected to extreme heat, perhaps as far as red hot. I have attained exactly this result with modern copper nickel coins, by deliberately heating them on the element of an electric kitchen stove. Report this Post to the Staff
echidna Pillar of the Community Australia 599 Posts	Posted 04/28/2017 10:46 pm Worth bullion value which is about $10 each Watch your top knot Report this Post to the Staff
Hercules Valued Member Australia 248 Posts	Posted 04/29/2017 04:43 am Quote: Worth bullion value which is about $10 each Except that you can't melt it down because it's still legal tender. Report this Post to the Staff
squaremealroundplate Valued Member Australia 185 Posts	Posted 04/29/2017 9:52 pm From my usually unsuccessful coin(s) " enhancing " experiments of many, many years ago - ouches a plenty !! - it appears that the florin has been left in container of vinegar, or some similar, mild " cleaning " assisting agent to brighten the coin up. The 92.5% silver content of the florin has adversely interacted with whatever " cleaning " assisting agent was used. It appears to have been a nice very high grade florin pre - " enhancing " and the scraping with a paper clip end. You might like to get some jeweller's silver cleaning fluid, dip a cotton bud tip into the fluid and carefully apply the tip of the cotton bud on to the coin and see what happens. Alternatively, talk with a jeweller who should be able help you. At least the coin(s) won't have the gray coating on them which will put some value back into the coin(s), but don't let the jeweller go overboard. Report this Post to the Staff
Jaufernute New Member Australia 2 Posts	Posted 04/29/2017 10:19 pm Im not sure how to reply specifically but ill try what sqauremealroundplate suggested because after all if its only worth bullion value, as echidna says, I may as well. Thank you for helping everyone. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16810 Posts	Posted 04/30/2017 04:29 am Quote: Except that you can't melt it down because it's still legal tender. Sorry, but that is not correct. Predecimal coins are indeed still legal tender, but they are not "current coin" according to the Currency Act 1965, only decimal coins are. So they are not protected under the Act from counterfeiting, damage, defacement and destruction; they are "excepted coins" according to the Crimes (Currency) Act 1981 and have the same legal status in that Act as foreign coins. In other words, while you can't legally melt down round 50 cent pieces, you can melt florins. Finally, it is entirely likely that these coins have now fallen beneath the minimum weight standard required for it to be legal tender, especially after they've been cleaned. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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