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Possible 1969-S Nickel RPM (WRPM-005)? Need Your Opinion

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I think I may have a 1969-S WRPM-005 Jefferson nickel RPM. However I am having trouble with determining if WRPM-005 is the correct one or not. I may be seeing things but it appears that my coin has many of the die markers associated with the various RPM's, however I don't think my coin has the Die dent above "LIBERTY" that identifies WRPM-005. Also I think these RPM's are of Proof coins, but I have trouble in identifying a well circulated Proof coin from a Business strike coin. What do you guys think?

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This is not a circulated proof, it is a normal business strike (which SF did through the 70's for various coins, usually cents).
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Business strike and Die Deterioration Doubling. Die flow lines on the obverse field point to a late die state. Most of the text isn't zoomed in enough, but I also see Die Deterioration Doubling between the 9 and the rim in the date.
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Notice how the "doubling" and the die flow lines correlate exactly in direction toward the rim.
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die flow lines correlate exactly in direction toward the rim
Ok, so it would be safe to say, that any time a coin shows die flow lines it is certainly a late die stage on a business strike coin? what is the Orange Peel affect that circulated Proofs sometimes show?

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Most of the text isn't zoomed in enough
Shoot, I must have resized at the wrong time.
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it would be safe to say, that any time a coin shows die flow lines it is certainly a late die stage on a business strike coin?


I'm no expert but, I'd say it's a safe bet. However, being LDS or VLDS does not exclude a coin from have a repunched mintmark. Proof dies have a specific low number of coins they strike before being replaced (can't remember the number) in order to maintain the best results. I don't think a proof will show die flow lines, at least not like this.

I can't answer the orange peel question.
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@Spruett Around 3k on a proof? At least, I believe that's the number for modern proof coins, since that was the PCGS guestimate for the CAM cents we were hunting down.

@Idacostya I'd need a reference image. The only orange peel I've seen is on circulation strike cents, and I think they were copper plated zinc cents with plating issues.
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I have read somewhere about an orange peel look referencing a particular strike and I cant remember or find where. Although I would suspect you are correct about the orange peel look being on business strikes coins. Is that similar to Die flow lines? I need a darn visual display right in front of me at all times. Like a Billboard
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