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1908-D Barber Half Dollar

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I am talking only about the TECHNICAL GRADE. I am VERY well aware that there is more to a grade than just the amount of wear present. Actually, the grade stays the same; it is the value that changes. TPGs like altering the grade a little to reflect the value change, which I find incredibly stupid and confusing on their part. I am a very technical person, and I believe that a coin with a VF-25 amount of wear and no problems should always be a VF-25, regardless of eye appeal. The market will adjust the value of the coin in question above or below VF-25 value as it sees fit. I will sell an ugly VF-25 for less than a beautiful VF-25, but it does not make it something other than a VF-25.

I guess we will agree to disagree about the grades on our coins. The leaves on your coin are just about as weak as those on my coin (that lowest leaf is the only one that shows a minute discernable difference, even though the aforementioned details are still sharper on my coin, and it is also a point for strike weakness, see below). And you say the slightly greater amount of wear on the eagle's feathers brings it "way down," even though you are only talking about a 5-point difference.

Compare the lowest leaf. The coins are about the same grade (1912 is graded higher) and taken with the same photography equipment.

1908-D-Barber-Half-Dollar

1908-D-Barber-Half-Dollar

My point is that, as little as three years ago, your coin would have been scoffed at in a holder with anything higher than VF-25 (maybe 30) on the label.
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I will admit that eye appeal has a large impact in grades above MS-63 (especially MS-65 and above). Those grades are extremely difficult to guage based on technical merit alone.


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You have a beautiful coin btw.


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In the spirit of beating a dead horse () for which there appears to be an icon, I received some coins back from a TPG submission so updating some old threads. Thanks for all your help!

1908-D-Barber-Half-Dollar
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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