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Is it just me or does it seem more than odd that a 1931 S Lincoln sells (grade for grade) at a fraction of the price of a 1914 D Lincoln? 1909 S VDB prices are understandable as it is the icon of the series. It would seem that, logically, the 1931 S would be the next highest price coin; but it isn't and not by a mile!
Help this old man understand.....

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 Posted 04/14/2008  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bronxman95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Supply and Demand... People Demand the 1914 D more or there are less 1914 D pennies in excellent condition.
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Alan, it is not just the number of coins minted, it is the population available, both for total circulation and by grade. I don't have a book with me so just checked PCGS pricing as an example. If you look at the 1931, in G-4 it is $2 and MS-60 $20 or 1000% increase. The 1931-S you are looking at is $115 in 4 condition and $195 in 60 or about an 80% variance. Obviously, to me, the price on the lower grade 1931-S is based on the total mintage, more or less, and the MS-60 is then adjusted based on population in the grade. In other words, there are a lot of high grade 1931-S coins relative to the overall circulation. anyway, that is what makes sense to me.

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1931-S Lincoln cents, like SVDB's, were known by the public at the time of release to be low mintage. The public basically saved basically the whole lot of them. Probably pretty close to the entire mintage survives which makes them quite available in a variety of grades but predominantly higher grades. I have a nice XF/AU one myself (I think it's an AU50). However, demand must be VERY high as these coins keep on increasing in value and FAST, especially in the past year.

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Prethen - What? You mean there's something besides 3CN's? LOL

That's a SOLID AU, I'd go AU55-58, beautiful 31S!
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It is all about the hoarding as Prethen pointed out. Many mint state and barely circulated examples were saved so that is where the bulk of the population resides. Even though prices are listed for G4, VG8, etc I bet you would have extreme difficulty in finding a nondamaged 1931-S in a grade lower than EF40/VF30. It is the same situation with the 1883 CENTS vs N/C Liberty nickel. The mintage for the CENTS is three times higher than the N/C variety, but the MS63 value is 5 times higher! The 1883 N/Cs were rumored that they were to be recalled after the CENTS variety was released which caused the hoarding.
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Prethen that is a very nice 1931-s!
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The responses, all of them, help me make sense of this. You all have given me more reason to think that the numbers of actual "collectors" of the Lincoln series is a lot lower than I have always believed.....or.....the number of sets missing s significant number of keys and semi-keys is quite large and the number of "completed" sets is quite small by comparison. It is also entirely possible that the demand that we, or some collectors, expect for Lincoln cents is building from the bottom up and that in just a few months or years prices for the "hole filler" coins will sky rocket. I need to upgrade my 14 D.......I don't think I am going to wait!

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