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2016 P West Virginia Harpers Ferry Quarter DDR New Member From NJ

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Hi everyone,

Recently started collecting coins with my son. Right now we're both learning the basics. Fascinating hobby-giving us both an education in the history and artistic beauty of coins. Lots to learn.

While searching through some pocket change my son found a 2016 P West Virginia Harpers Ferry Quarter with what appears to be doubling of West Virginia. Does this look like a "real" doubled die coin or is this the result of Machine Doubling. Any help/education is greatly appreciated


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Welcome to the club.. there are lots of very knowledgeable folks here to help out.. and it's great to hear new collectors especially multiple generations in a family are catching the bug.. I also found a few coins bearing this feature.. this is Machine Doubling not doubled die.. what I myself learned recently is that the true doubling of "incuse" lettering such as the lettering type found on this new quarter design looks much different from standard doubled die.. for incuse lettering it will make the letter look smaller or thinner when it is a true doubled die opposed to making them look larger.. what you have here is Machine Doubling caused from die chatter/movement during the striking process.. If you look back through a few days of posts here you will find one that I shared.. one of the more experienced members posted some photos in that thread showing a great example of what true doubled die of this lettering type will look like...
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Thank you for the information. it was most helpful. My son thinks it's cool looking so we'll save it and use it as a reference for Machine Doubling.
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You are welcome.. I also save examples of extreme Machine Doubling because I think they look cool .. yours is a good example of extreme doubling
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Extreme is right. To me it looks "tripled". Like OP, I am learning as well. Thanks for the post!
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to CCF. I agree with MD and even tripling.
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Here's the website for Harper's Ferry doubled dies:

http://doubleddie.com/2247758.html

If you haven't seen this website yet, it really helps with identifying doubled dies.
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I want to thank everyone for the helpful information. It was the triple image that made me think it might be a double die and machine die combination.
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With a coin that has regular lettering on top of the coin surface that would be a decent possibility.. but with "incuse" sunk in lettering as in this coins design, you want to have thinning/smaller letters keep searching.. fun coin treasures are found all day every day.. but the only way to make them yours is to keep trying :)
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