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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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not quite a Cud but getting there  you can't see it well but the broken piece of the die was starting to shify away from the rest of the die and is slightly elevated from the rest of the coin...very interesting piece. I share ownership of this piece with Apirix. CCCS 1943 Tombac 5 cent piece, retained broken die 
Feel free to call me Will.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Pretty close, but at this stage of the variety the is known as a 'retained broken die'.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
Quote:Would a large cent with a deep crack that passes across the middle of the reverse of a large cent "in an arc from rim to rim" be considered a Retained Cud ?. ...and does it belong here ? I'm of the opinion that the appropriate answer is "technically, yes." Cuds (IMO) are subsets of the broader term "Broken Dies," and thedollarman and SPP-Ottawa's coins are at the ragged edge of the division past which "Broken Die" is the more descriptive - and more "important" numismatically - term. In the interest of yet greater needless complication (  ), it might also devolve to whether or not a piece has completely departed any solid connection to the rest of the die, still in place or not. But if half the danged die is laying on the floor whilst the rest is still striking coins, is it just a "cud?" 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: , but at this stage of the variety the is known as a 'retained broken die'. Quote:I'm of the opinion that the appropriate answer is "technically, yes." Cuds (IMO) are subsets of the broader term "Broken Dies," Thanks for the "fine tuning" in this description.. I'm leaning on the "retained broken die" for this 58. It's a very tough die pair as I've only seen a pic of one other from Rob's book. A Turner OB5/RB19..at 0 %..  
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1101 Posts |
Wow! Those are neat coins thedollarman and DEVLEC. Great finds! I bet those dies didn't strike very many more coins after those.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3234 Posts |
Well Phil310, a Wow! from you certainly carries a lot of weight here..
Thanks..D
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Moderator
 Canada
10460 Posts |
Spotted this one in the 1971 publication of The Kayak, Vol. 1, No. 8-9 (Aug-Sept), on page 118. I don't know whose collection this coin resides in now, but it is almost as impressive as my 1937 die break and Cud. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1101 Posts |
That is a nice small cent Cud SPP-Ottawa! Here's another nice small cent Cud I found recently.  
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
1781 Posts |
Phil310- that is nice. Love the way the 'C' blends. 
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Moderator
 Canada
10460 Posts |
Oh, that is a nice one Phil!! Maybe take a hawthorn and clear away that black gunk around the edges of the devices...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1101 Posts |
Thanks. It would look a lot better if I got rid of the gunk. I'll work on that.
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
1679 Posts |
Found 1 today ---not nice but hey its a Cud 
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1101 Posts |
Nice find Don! That's a keeper.
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Moderator
 Canada
10460 Posts |
New addition for this thread... Not one, but two Cuds on this 1907 NFLD cent. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very nice find! I love that Cud.
Errers and Varietys.
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