Question About Olympic Rings And Wreath

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shimecki New Member Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska) 6 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 10:37 am I have been searching all numismatic forums for last ten days. Nothing. All 3.000 topics on NCLT forum here. Nothing. I could use some help now. Recently I bought a few olympic coins from 70's, encapsulated. And this is one of them. Weight with capsule is 27,2 g, without 22,7 g (with precise scale 22,742 g) Is this some special edition, proof, fake...? Any help would be most welcome! Report this Post to the Staff

nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3468 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 10:41 am Found this for sale on ebay: 1974 Canada RCM 5 Dollar Silver 1976 Montreal Olympic Games Silver Coin http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Canada...AOSwlMFZFLiq This guy is asking $16, I see others in the $25 range. Report this Post to the Staff
shimecki New Member Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska) 6 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 10:49 am Yep. But problem is in weight. All 5 dollars are 24,300 g. This one is 22,742 g. Never seen before. Report this Post to the Staff
Coconutjoe Pillar of the Community United States 1475 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 12:29 pm I see differences comparing with the authentic coin on the right, along with a weak strike. Face size, nose, etc. Click below photo to make larger. Edited by Coconutjoe 05/18/2017 12:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12251 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 12:40 pm From your images, I am not seeing anything that immediately makes me think it is a fake. Its weight being off by ~1.6 grams, however, pushes the piece beyond acceptable tolerances for RCM coins and does raise questions. You asked about the coins being a "special edition, proof, fake...?" The coin appears to be an uncirculated example vs. a proof. That shouldn't matter re: the coin's weight, however, as it is my understanding that the proof and uncirculated coins were struck to the same size/weight specifications. I don't recall ever reading about "special edition" coins being struck for the Montreal Olympics on lighter-than-normal planchets. That's not to say it didn't happen, but it seems such sets would be common knowledge at this point if they had been produced. What is the thickness of the coin? The standard specifications say it should be 2.35mm. Is it possible yours is slightly thinner? If so, it is possible your coin was struck on a "thin" planchet that evaded quality control. If such is the case, the coin would definitely carry a premium price on the secondary market. (Note: All my comments are based on the assumption that your scale is accurate and that you've weighed other Montreal Olympic $5 coins and that each measured as per official specifications.) Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12251 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 12:42 pm Quote: I see differences comparing with the authentic coin on the right, along with a weak strike. Face size, nose, etc. Click below photo to make larger. Notes on specific differences would be helpful. Also, I think it would be important to compare coins of the same date as minor die variations could easily exist from one year to the next. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
shimecki New Member Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska) 6 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 1:28 pm "commems - I am not seeing anything that immediately makes me think it is a fake..." Same here. Bought these coin "as is" (flea market), really nothing suspicious about it. Diameter 38 mm. Magnet test ok. At home, I checked it with two scales (results are up there). Density test ok (result is 10,2; quite close to 0.925 silver). Thickness is 2,25-2,30 mm (that might be some clue). I'll make some HD photos for specific differences; there is a special box for "out of order" coins :-) It might end up there... Thank you for your help! Report this Post to the Staff
Coconutjoe Pillar of the Community United States 1475 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 1:39 pm I stand corrected after comparing with 1974 business strike. Off weight is a mystery though.. Edited by Coconutjoe 05/18/2017 1:40 pm Report this Post to the Staff
shimecki New Member Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska) 6 Posts	Posted 05/18/2017 1:49 pm Thank you Coconutjoe; coin looks legit, everything but weight. I'll check it with a few calipers. Report this Post to the Staff
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