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Augustus Dupondius Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 06/01/2017  10:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am new to this hobby and I have come across this coin for sale from a women who says her husband had in his collection. It seems ok, but the patina look shiny so it's throwing me off. Maybe it's some kind of protective coating for preservation, but again I'm not sure. Any opinions would be much appreciated.



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 Posted 06/02/2017  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is genuine and coated. Coating is rarely done any more, but was common in the early 1900s. Check the edge for a seam. If you find one (from casting) it is a fake, but I don't expect you will find one.
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 Posted 06/02/2017  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only have a gut feeling with this one so far.
Nice pictures, but need to see the edge in a few places.

Is this piece VERY constant in thickness?
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I agree with the others need to see what the edge looks like, the size and weight of the coin will help also.
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 Posted 06/02/2017  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imperator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks oke to me

Almost same coating as by my coin

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to CCF. Are you thinking of buying it from her? If so,what is she asking for it? We can let you know if it is a good deal or not.
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This makes sense, it's from an old collection. I don't have the coin in hand yet. I will if/when I do (you never know).

I just want to say, I am a member of few forums and honestly in some forums,I'm afraid to post some questions as not to sound too much of a novice (or stupid).

THIS FORUM IS MUCH MORE WELCOMING AND HELPFUL! It looks like I will be here a lot.

I hope to be part of the family and contribute!

Thanks
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This forum is the best of it's kind. A question not asked is stupid,so ask as many questions as you need to.
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Travelcoin.

Looking forward to reading your future posts here.
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to the forum.

I'm quite new here as well... and just to say the guys here really are AAAA+++++ When it comes to stupid questions?
I've asked many and and they allways answer!!

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Hey John, BTW I paid $85 and also got a NERO As, same type of coating.

Augustus great coins on the sites, would have loved that Tancred - Lost in the mail? Haven't seen it on ebay though.
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 Posted 06/06/2017  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my humble opinion .......

You got a "steal" !
Many old geezers (like myself) are fond of applying a dab of Blue Ribbon coin preservative/cleaner on bronze coins to give them a wet look. In a pinch a dab of mineral oil will do. This adds contrast to the photo and shows the details much more clearly.
A good analogy is when viewing ancient rock carvings it is common to use a spray bottle to make faint marks visible.

If I had seen this coin I would certainly have grabbed it !
I collect only bronze coins with emphasis on first century Roman issues. This coin meets all of my criteria for acquisition ! Including price !

You have made an excellent purchase.
As far as the Nero you mentioned .......
I would love to see it
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This makes sense, it's from an old collection. I don't have the coin in hand yet. I will if/when I do (you never know).

I just want to say, I am a member of few forums and honestly in some forums,I'm afraid to post some questions as not to sound too much of a novice (or stupid).

THIS FORUM IS MUCH MORE WELCOMING AND HELPFUL! It looks like I will be here a lot.

I hope to be part of the family and contribute!

Thanks



Welcome to the forum!

I agree that this forum is more welcoming than others.

Collecting coins is a hobby and an escape from day to day stresses in life. The last thing anyone of us wants is to come to a forum to escape only to be lectured or made to feel stupid! God forbid we try and enjoy ourselves in our spare time eh!

In my experience (even though I have only recently "rejoined), I think it is safe to say that you will feel welcome here.

Unlike on other forums I have not witnessed any "know it alls" here who pounce to make a big deal of even the tiniest of mistakes and become aggressive at the slightest dissenting opinion etc.

By the way, I do not mind the coating on your coin. It makes it different from other coins. It part of its provenance.



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BTW

A quick bath in acetone will remove whatever has been applied to the coin and should not change the coin in the least bit.
It has become my habit to do this as a routine. People have become expert at faking patina on coins. If the acetone removes anything it has been 'doctored' in a deceitful manner.
I qualify deceit as some ancient coins which have been overcleaned are not really harmed by exposing them to darken the surfaces.
But magic markers and cans of spray paint cross the line !
Acetone will easily remove such nonsense.
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