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I also think ISIS coins would be rather cool to own, but I'd rather wait until after ISIS are entirely defeated, so that I know that I'm not actually helping them that way. This is a more reasonable statement.  |
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Ah yes, sorry for not being more clear earlier. Any coins made by ISIS are indeed "blood money" and purchasing them directly funds a terrorist organization.
Along a similar vein, I saw a documentary maybe 10 years ago about a hardline conservative group in Indonesia that also began minting Koran-approved gold and silver coinage, due to the horrid financial situation over there. Not sure what has come of that movement, but it was at least moderately successful. And these were businessmen, not terrorists, so no moral quandary there. But, these coins were NOT government authorized and thus not "legal" tender in Indonesia.
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So, basically their own version of the Liberty Dollars.
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Along a similar vein, I saw a documentary maybe 10 years ago about a hardline conservative group in Indonesia that also began minting Koran-approved gold and silver coinage, due to the horrid financial situation over there. Not sure what has come of that movement, but it was at least moderately successful. And these were businessmen, not terrorists, so no moral quandary there. But, these coins were NOT government authorized and thus not "legal" tender in Indonesia. I think I've heard of those somewhere before as well. Kelantan, right? Quote:
So, basically their own version of the Liberty Dollars. Yeah, this basically. |
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This is a little off-topic but a previous comment made me think of an interesting tidbit. Quote:
philosophically similar to buying heroin from the Taliban. Actually, opium production dropped under Taliban rule. It rose again, and continues to rise, after United States intervention in Afghanistan. Not where I found out but this is from Wikipedia: Quote:
In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. The Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas, roughly three quarters of the world's supply of heroin at the time. The ban was effective only briefly due to the deposition of the Taliban in 2002. This accompanying graph (cultivated hectares of opium poppies per year) shows the result (only to be reversed shortly after "intervention"):  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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06/15/2017 01:04 am
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The Mexican coins of 10 and 20 nuevo pesos are indeed the only coins that come to mind when it comes to UN-recognized states issuing some legal tender. Otherwise, nothing else but Daesh comes to mind. I agree with most here: would be cool to have, but only after they're dead and buried, please.
I recall that Seborga also issued some silver coins in 1996, and with 1 Luigini having a 'value' of $6, it becomes plausible that those coins were issued for circulation, but I'm not sure about that, also because mintage numbers are low, the area is small and insignificant and it's an extra currency in addition to the Lire / Euro.
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I don't care if this is political or not but nothing about ISIS is "cool". They are repulsive and nothing about their coinage would interest me.
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 ! "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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@chesterb, @bump111: They are a part of world history now. Coins represent world history, they don't lie, they aren't rewritten like history books. Coins aren't good or bad. A lot of people collect Nazi coins, without adoring Nazism. That's the same way in which I think Daesh coins are of interest. I find that group repulsive and as written I hope they vanish soon, but that doesn't mean that anything that happened there should be swept under the carpet or not be talked about at all. Study and creating awareness might prevent such groups to rise to power again in the future. As we're into coin collecting here, coins should be the way to make sure this dark part of history isn't forgotten. As such it'd be pretty nice to have one of those coins: it's a palpable witness of what happened.
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06/16/2017 05:08 am
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I don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but I personally wouldn't want to have or hold anything that would remind me of that group. I wouldn't derive any sort of pleasure from it. Just my opinion and just as valid as anyone else's. I try not to condemn someone for seeing things differently.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Just my opinion and just as valid as anyone else's. I try not to condemn someone for seeing things differently. Well said. |
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Thanks for the replies, I am going to Mexico this summer, maybe it's possible to find some in circulation? I went to a bank in Puerto Vallarta in October 2014 (I was a passenger on a cruise ship) and told the teller I was a collector and asked if she had any 20-peso coins. She looked in the till and let me have (for face value) a 2014 commemorative and a 1993 silver centred one. I did ask if she had any others but she said those were the only two she had. So less than three years ago you could still pick them up for face value. |
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