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Please Help Identify This Coin It Looks Like A Saudi Arabia Gold Guinea BU

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 Posted 06/15/2017  3:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add peaece13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please help identify this coin it looks like a Saudi Arabia Gold Guinea but has a the marking as if it were a "1/2 Guinea."
I believe it is some sort of restrike.
The gold content is correct at .916 purity (tested with XRF)

As always thanks for the help!

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 Posted 06/15/2017  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See the MDM 22 above the circle on your 1st picture. That makes me think of this https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces103569.html
although the link is not the same- it is also the 1 Gunayeh, the presence of the MDM 22 is a clue that this is a commercial copy as well.
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 Posted 06/15/2017  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peaece13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, That's about the extent my research led me to as well, just can not find a similar "1/2" version.
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 Posted 06/18/2017  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AmerSalmeh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, just joined this website in order to reply you :)

few notes here:
1st, your coin is not listed in Krause Unusual World Coins nor any other denomination other than the 1 Gunayh similar to the original coin.
both the original and the copy are dated 1370. yours though is dated 13x4. the 3rd digit is weird.

2nd, usually the MDM22 is at the left, yours is different at the top.

3rd, apparently other denominations do exist. and I just found out that.
source: https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...1906&lot=537
added: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces115079.html

that piece is dated 1374 so I'm thinking that probably should've been the date on yours
that piece though has MDM21 instead of MDM22.

4th, I've added your piece to our database in Numista
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces115078.html

Would you be generous to allow us use your pictures? Your name copyrights would go under the pictures of course. thanks in advance.
Also, weight and diameter would be helpful. I'm guessing yours should be around 4g

5th, I didnt find anything yet, but I wouldn't be surprised now to find a 1/4 Gunayh piece as well
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AmerSalmeh,
You are welcome to use these images. Thanks for the info.
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AmerSalmeh
Also
the weight is 3.96g
diameter is 19.52mm

A quick question, any idea of a value estimate, I purchase coins, jewelry, and bullion and this was purchased based on gold weight and content?
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Thanks a lot, pix and data added!
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces115078.html

As for value, I don't know.
According to Krause Unusual 2011, the value for the similar coin of 1 Gunayh (X#21) is BV+10% in UNC.

https://books.google.ae/books?id=NU...oins&f=false
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@Spence thanks a lot :)
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 Posted 06/20/2017  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peaece13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@AmerSalmeh Thank you for all of your help with this piece. And welcome the the community!
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