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Hey, What are thoughts on this coin and any problems noted? Thanks   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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looks proof. pf58.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think you may be right.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coin. Small obverse rim bump at 3:00. Excellent hair detail. AU-58 perhaps Proof?
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I cannot tell if this coin is a proof, so I will say AU-58.
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
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Appears to me to be a Proof. Impaired Proof ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Could be PR58, but I will say AU58.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You generally don't see a proof this sharp with no apparent luster. It should show some traces, even through dark toning, especially in protected areas near the devices. It looks like this coin was lightly circulated/handled so that the surface luster was rubbed off. Still looks very sharp and there are no apparent spots that look worn.
It is a very attractive example of an impaired proof. Most impaired proofs have many hairlines or other unsightly damage from improper handling.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
06/18/2017 11:34 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Many mid to late 19th c. Proofs were also cleaned, including by Mint employees themselves, often without particular care.
I would call this a fully struck AU55. I am not quite convinced that this is a Proof yet.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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United States
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The OP revealed that this coin was pf58 in the other thread asking whether we would buy an impaired proof. For the record I made my guess before OP revealed the coin that he was referring to and what the grade was.  . IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Ah, so it is a Proof, then. I was rather on the fence about it, it certainly had the full strike of a Proof but the balance of the coin seemed more like a business strike.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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What makes it impaired? A proof strike that grades below 60 is considered "impaired". Any signs of circulation thus make it impaired, which is completely different than details or problems. Any impaired proof can be problem-free as this example appears to be. |
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Thanks for the teaching and insight everyone  |
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Posted 06/17/2017 4:39 pm
