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Millennium Candelabra

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 Posted 04/22/2008  6:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looking back through the archives I found mention of a millennium 50c coin with a "fat I" in the word millennium giving it the appearance of a candelabra. There isn't anything further written on the topic and I'm wondering if anyone knows if such a variety or error exists. The archived topic was posted by lim118 can be found at http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...s=millennium
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 Posted 04/22/2008  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I commend your thoroughness.
I haven't seen the article referred to in the earlier thread.
And, I can't recall any other discussion of varieties of the Millenium 50-cent, other than the incuse.

... 20 minutes later, after looking at 21 x 50-cents, including one incuse.
I found one coin with a fat "I" (2nd one),
but there was also -
some fattening of the all uprights of both "N";
a lot of fattening of both uprights of the "U"; and
a lot of fattening of all limbs of the "M".
I was using a magnifier. When I looked at the coin, unaided, the distinguishing features were plain enough ... once you knew what to look for, and where.
The tops and bottoms of the letters look the same as the others.

If I hadn't read your post, the shape of the five letters "NNIUM", would make me wonder if the coin has been flattened in that area. The coin was taken from circulation, but shows no other sign of damage or unusual wear.

So, and this is the interesting point, could this result from a damaged die ?

Peter in Darwin


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 Posted 04/22/2008  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations Peter, you are probably the only known person who has one of these! I checked through my supplies of "normal" millennium 50c coins and couldn't find one. A great desciption of what we should all be looking for, by the way. Any chance of a photo?
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 Posted 04/23/2008  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly if there was something of a hard substance got into the press in this exact area then it would be possible that it could have damaged the die, however the chances of something of the right substance actually hard enough to do with may not be overally good. It could be the case that you are seeing something similar to the 2007 50cent piece that has seen some effects of doubling. Around the 50, Shield and the Star at the top. Which is think was being suggested a worn die.
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 Posted 04/23/2008  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, re pics of my "Fat-eye Millenium 50-cent" -
I recently bought a digital camera, to take pics of my coins among other things. I'm still mastering the macro functions. But the BIG problem is that I can't get my new camera to "talk" to my 8-year old 'puter. I will however see if someone cleverer than I can take a pic, then email it to me, for relay to the Forum.
... something to chat about between the Dawn Service & the March ...
Peter
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 Posted 04/23/2008  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justabeginner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So your gonna send the coin to that someone...?
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 Posted 05/05/2008  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
C'mon Pete, lets have a look!
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 Posted 05/05/2008  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I went through all my Millennium 50¢ & found a few with the 'fat' letters as Peter described. I can do pictures but the batteries for the camera are flat, so I'll get 'em charged up & see what I can do.

Not making any promises mind you.....

For what it's worth, my opinion is "doubling".

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 Posted 05/06/2008  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Images of 2 different coins:


Millennium-Candelabra

Millennium-Candelabra

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 Posted 05/06/2008  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I've only found one, which I haven't been able to get a pic of.
I've compared it to Nancy's excellent pics.
Mine is the same as Nancy's top pic, in relation to the letters "NNIUM". But, Nancy's also has fat "YE". My "YE" is fairly normal.

Given the recent debate on this forum about how to describe these phenomenon, which finished with the advice that young collectors could use any terms they want "with impunity", I suppose we could say that this is a "tilted-collar broadstrike through grease".

Peter
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 Posted 05/14/2008  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, here's one we all missed! Seven millennium coins for sale on ebay for $6.50 with this 'Candelabra "I"' pictured included in the group. Coins were passed in with no bid. darn!! I contacted the seller to see if the coins were still available but alas, looks like they have gone back into circulation. The closed auction, for the time being, can be seen at: http://cgi.ebay.com/7-x-Australian-...ns_W0QQitemZ120255972717QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3376QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting



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 Posted 05/14/2008  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, it seems there are some cub-varieties.
Mine, referred to above; not yet pictured - sorry - looks more like the one on ebay: fat NNIUM.
Whereas Nancy's, pictured above, has fat NNIUM-YE.
I wonder if there is an intermediate sub-variety; or shorter; or longer ones ?
Peter
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 Posted 05/15/2008  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peter, I have quite a few Millennium coins and the ones with the obese "I" come with differing degrees of 'obesity'. (AKA doubling) I'll eventually put up some more pictures showing a few of the different degrees of doubling.

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