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Do Cleaned Coins Bother You?

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No.
I don't care much for heavily polished coins though.
If carrying a coin in my pocket mars its value, then it's not a coin IMO.


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These coins didn't get to this condition by being in an NGC holder. That's the way I like them.
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Almost all circulated coins have been cleaned at some point. 160 year old silver with no dirt or finger prints? Puh-lease. It's how they look now that matters to me.
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If the cleaning does not interfere with quality of the coin, I would not care that is has been cleaned. However, if the cleaning severely harmed the coin in a very visible way, it does bother me.
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I've certainly owned market-acceptable coins that were likely cleaned many years ago, as well as many pre-1930 "blast white" type coins that have likely been dipped but were in straight holders and met all other quality criteria.
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Everyone makes their own value judgment when it comes to cleaning. That's a good thing. The market will decide on the price. It is the lower price that allows cleaned coins to still be good value for money or not.
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There's a big difference in cleaning and conserving in my option. If the action causes detectable surface damage or defacement then for my money I'd rather own a lower grade original or more natural specimen.
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I think many coins in straight TPG holders have been cleaned. The issue is one of degree and varies depending upon individual coins.
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There's a big difference in cleaning and conserving in my option. If the action causes detectable surface damage or defacement then for my money I'd rather own a lower grade original or more natural specimen.


I agree with the above...I only try to buy original coins at this point in my collection career. I find a nice looking original coin is hard to find and holds its value over cleaned ones and is worth the wait.
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To put it succinctly .... no.


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Lately I've been buying nice grade circulated early Wheaties with dirt or crud problems . First they get an Acetone bath ,maybe a little light tooth pick action . Then they get a good application of Verdi-care with soft cloth or Q-tip .The end results for most of the coins are phenomenal . This is NOT considered coin cleaning .
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A good example.


Thanks for the acknowledgement, Jbuck. While my post has a somewhat humorous intent, I was speaking from a practical view. The original question speaks mostly to eye-appeal, it seems. While I like pretty coins, I tend to find beauty in the history of where a coin's been, who held it, how was it used and more. Counterstamped coins often reveal that sort of beauty.

Oftentimes, counterstamped coins benefit from a gentle "cleaning" with acetone or Coin Care. Lacking such conservation, potentially harmful debris will remain in the recessed stamp. Note that the counterstamped coin in my previous post was scrubbed by someone other than I. Sadly, my attempts to attribute this counterstamp have so far borne no fruit.
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While I like pretty coins, I tend to find beauty in the history of where a coin's been, who held it, how was it used and more. Counterstamped coins often reveal that sort of beauty.
Well said.

I certainly agree that the appeal of the counterstamp overrides the cleaning.
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Shouldn't how the coin looks matter more than whether it was cleaned in the past?


Yes. If they look obviously cleaned it looks bad to me, and so it is how it looks that does matter in the end.
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I personally hate coins that have altered surfaces in any way. The exception are ancients.
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