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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Calling Longtime Collectors:
Which U.S. Classic Series Have Gotten Harder To Collect Over The Years?
Can be due to:
a). increasing prices b). more collectors meaning more competition for available coins c). a lack of quality coins on the market in recent years
or any other reason you can think of.
Without any further ado I open this topic for discussion, looking forward to your thoughts.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Seated Dollars. Premium quality bust material. Really probably most classic series when the prices were retreating. The premium stuff usually goes into hiding during soft times in the market
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Rest in Peace
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Great question! One of those always at the back of your mind and neglect to ask...  I'm a "re-collector", started back up in 2013 from a 40-year hiatus, but never got to real classics as a kid. All I can say is most are way over my pay grade! 
Edited by Crazyb0 08/20/2017 11:40 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I would say I have to agree that Seated and Trade Dollars have become pretty unaffordable for an average Joe collector. ( Not Coconut Joe or Joe2007 ) lol I have seen Twenty Cent Pieces go up dramatically, especially the 1875 CC and Standing Liberty quarters are hard to afford in AU and MS state where they were much easier to find and buy 20 -25 years ago.
Edited by TNG 08/21/2017 12:04 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
All of them. There is not a single classic series that has gotten easier to collect since I started collecting.
Edited by Conder101 08/21/2017 04:59 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
All pre-1830 issues of every series, especially the copper. I would note that the 1830-1870 period always have the same easy dates available all the time with anything slightly scarcer being held forever without returning back on the market. Seated dollars have always been tough, and prices are finally getting to a more honest position. You didn't ask, but the most under priced series, by far, are the classic silver commemoratives. They are at the very bottom of the price swing.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Shield cents , oh I'm sorry did you say classic . 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with everything everyone else has said. Seated and Trade dollars as others pointed out seem to have increased in value by a lot. The one I wanted to mention though are Carson City minted coins. Even the higher mintage coins are going at a premium now compared to others of the same type. A nice original circulated CC half is a great coin that immediately inspires thoughts of the 'wild west'.
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Valued Member
United States
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Anything Seated. Just look at how S mint quarters from the 1850s and 1860s have exploded.
Good quality bust coins are going up in price.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was in the market for those early S Seated quarters up until 10 years ago omegaraptor. Since then the prices have quadrupled. Oddly, this has made them more available than they used to be, but from the expensive specialist dealers. The less affordable they become, the easier they are to find. Though it's not a classic series, I see California gold fractionals as being overlooked right now. They have the same regional interest and are as scarce as the S quarters.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 08/21/2017 2:59 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: All of them. There is not a single classic series that has gotten easier to collect since I started collecting. I disagree. Morgan dollars are cheaper and more easily available now than in the late 80's when I started collecting just before slabs hit the scene. '89 was the peak of prices in the morgan series. Slabs changed the game and dropped the prices of most morgans. Nobody knew how many of these were really around. Amazing how cheap you can get really stunning coins.
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Edited by numismatic student 08/21/2017 7:41 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Seated Liberty Dollars; uncleaned Bust & Seated coinage of any type with original surfaces; mid-grade to Uncirculated Barber half dollars; better grade Flying Eagle cents. The prices on 19th c. gold from Charlotte, Dahlonega & Carson City seem to only go up and up... I also agree that Trades have gotten harder to collect due to the massive influx of fakes, which has pushed the market ahead on certified genuine examples. Easier to collect these days, in my opinion, than they used to be, would be the Two Cent and 3 cent (nickel) pieces, both of which seem to be suffering from a stagnant market and a surplus of coins available. There is also no shortage of common date Indian Head cents, V nickels, and Barber coins in circulated grades, and you can pretty much put together a partial set of those coins (minus the keys and semi-keys) in a single afternoon. If you ever step outside the realm of US coinage, both Spanish (pillar/columnario type) and Mexican federal issue (cap and rays) 8 Reales are on fire, and have been, especially certified problem-free coins. A combination of lots of problem coins and lots of Chinese fakes is combining to make the "real" reales climb in price nearly every month.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:I disagree. Morgan dollars are cheaper and more easily available now than in the late 80's when I started collecting I started collecting in 72, at that time Unc Morgans (MS didn't exist yet) could be had for under $10 (Roll price was around $72). A VF 1893 S was $400. You have any MS Morgans to sell cheaper than when I started collecting? Even in the mid to late 80's before the "Big market run up" of 88/89 common MS Morgans could be had for $22 - $25 dollars. I don't see MS Morgans that cheap now. December 1986 a VF 1893 S was $1,000. What does one go for today?
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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I was collecting in the 80's and Commems, Walkers, and Morgan dollars in ridiculous high grades were considered "investment grade coins" and it was hard to find them at less than ridiculous prices. Stuff like Draped Bust quarters, halves, dollars in VF/XF did not bring big money as these were not investment grade and only collectors cared about them. Well, flash forward to 2017. The Morgan dollars and Commems collapsed, some trading at 1/5 of their 1989 prices. Draped bust dollars in XF were around $750 and are now $3,500+.
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Moderator
 United States
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I throw my vote to the Seated dollars. That goalpost has always been moving away from me seemingly just out of reach.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Conder1, if you inflation adjust your 1972 $10, it comes to $59, and the Dec 86 (I used '87) $1000 comes to $2,200. I can buy MS common Morgans for <$50, although the 93-S is way up there, as should be expected for a key date to surpass the rate of inflation. So from an average "Joe Collector" standpoint, I think it's easier now then it was for Morgans, until (like with every series) you hit the key dates.
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