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 Posted 07/07/2017  12:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Johnny36 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I have done some research on testing silver but I'm confused by the answers. I'm trying to save/collect/invest very generic silver because it's an easy way for me to save and be a small hobby at the same time(aka - keep me busy).

I have an ok stack and at least 2/3 of what I buy is from APMEX, the rest from LCS or reliable ebay sellers. I still want to test. My LCS talks like they never even think about testing (I personally only buy from them in 5 - 20 oz quantities)

I'm thinking of spending up to $20 or $30 on testing. Is that enough? Should I buy a scale and/or acid? Does anyone have a link for an OK cheaper scale?
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 Posted 07/07/2017  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Why? Are you concerned the products you're buying aren't accurate in weight or fake perhaps? If you buy reputable products esp. APMEX, you get what you order. You say "generic", define please, coinage silver or bullion? If youre buying Chinese, well I can see why you'd want to,or stuff off ebay is risky.
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 Posted 07/07/2017  12:51 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you talking about bullion coins from mints or rounds, bars, etc.?
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I am buying junk silver (90% pre 1964)coins from ebay and the local coin shop (usually at melt value for the local coin shops or melt + 2-4% on ebay). I'm also buying bars and rounds from APMEX or a sponsored dealer on ebay - I wait for deals and usually its 103-105% of spot. I would like to test everything for peace of mind and to make sure I'm spending my money on something that's legit. I would be very surprised if anything I have bought so far is fake but if I plan to build a decent stack for whatever use, I want to be sure.

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I've never bought from APMEX but, I think it's safe to say that what you've gotten from them is real.

As far as junk silver coins from ebay, the easiest thing would be to buy a cheap digital scale and compare weight to what it's supposed to be if real (accounting a little for wear). You can get a scale from ebay that does 1/100th gram for $20.

The next method would be a specific gravity test to determine the piece's composition. It's cheap and you can use the scale you bought from ebay . It's more time consuming but the results add a lot more to just knowing the weight.

Beyond that, XRF can be used to determine the composition. This, in my opinion, should be the last resort.

I hope this is all correct and helps some.
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Buy a gram scale good to 1/100 and weigh each coin. Proper weights are listed in the Red Book, or many places on line.

After you've weighed a few hundred, you'll probably quit. Chances of finding a counterfeit in 90% silver is extremely remote.

Such scales in a small phone size (or a little larger) very accurate and cost $25-30.
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Johnny. Buying from the reputable sources you are currently is your best defense.
Get a 1/100 scale and you tube "silver ice test" and "silver tissue test" if you want to test further.
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 Posted 07/13/2017  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 2taol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I grabbed this from a different forum it hasnt anything to do with coins or bullion but someone asked how to check that silver is silver!!

"There are a few things you can do to test, and I use multiple methods. It can often be simple to fool one test, but if you use multiple tests it gets much harder.

1. Try to buy from known trusted vendors.
2. Know what legitimate bars/rounds look like
3. Know what the genuine coloration/finish looks like
4. Check weight, anything significantly higher or lower than the stated weight is a bad sign
5. With acid tests it is best to sand down an area to make sure you are not just testing a silver plate. Many acid test kits include a block with which to do this. You can test what you scratched off directly on the block.
6. A simple test you can do is place an ice cube on your silver and see how long it takes to melt. Since silver is highly conductive it should melt very fast. You can compare with a bar you know is silver to know how long it should take
7. Check the tone of the sound it makes when it is tapped with a hard object. Real silver has a very distinctive ringing tone
8. Silver is diamagnetic, this means it will create an electrical field around it when it comes into contact with a strong magnetic field. If you run a strong neodymium magnet over your silver you will feel resistance as you pass over it. Be aware other metals are diamagnetic as well, so this test alone is not proof."
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