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New Member
United States
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New Member
 United States
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My half sister was digging through boxes last night and handed it to me said she got it from her grandpa
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I seriously doubt that it could be an officially authorized coin but it might be a token or souvenir of sorts. Perhaps an amusement piece having the name of a province that doesn't belong on that type of coin (Ho-Peh)and did not exist during the time of the indicated emperor.
Edit: I added the name of Ho-Peh after checking notes on:
Hubei, Hebai, Hupeh and Hopeh. It's not hard to get mixed up because there can be a couple different spellings for some provinces.
I think the smoking gun here might be Hopeh in Chinese doesn't belong on a genuine dragon dollar coin.
Edited by Albert 07/09/2017 6:47 pm
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New Member
 United States
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Do you know anything about the coin in general Albert. I've been researching it most of today but really haven't found anyway to tell if it is isn't authentic
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Valued Member
United States
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This is perhaps one of the worst fakes I have ever seen. Not only is it obviously cast, but the counterfeiter misspelled the province it was supposedly minted in. The obverse should say "HU-PEH PROVINCE" but instead it says "HE-PEH". Dragon dollars like these are among the most faked coins in the world. When real, they can be quite valuable, but unfortunately with this being not genuine it is worth next to nothing. Here is an article about the genuine coin: http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq...in_coin=5398
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New Member
 United States
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Anything like tell tale sign of a counterfit for this particular. Plus consent really help not being able to read the language I know the lettering on back is supposed to say the same province and year produced.but that's about it
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New Member
 United States
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That's for the southern province hupeh then northern province was hepeh doing a little bit more digging the coin was dated for 1805 1920 something but the northern province of He-Peh didn't come in to existance till 1923. I've seen the post totally different province
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Valued Member
United States
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Here is a link to another thread where someone has the exact same coin as you. Scroll down a bit and you will see it. It seems that a well-known counterfeiter has been selling these exact coins. http://goccf.com/t/96395
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Valued Member
United States
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That's further evidence the coin is not genuine. If "He-Peh" province was created in 1923, the Qing Dynasty would have already been deposed and thus no Dragon Dollars would have been minted.
Edited by Matt2727 07/09/2017 5:32 pm
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New Member
 United States
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That makes sense is it worth anything or just basically an interesting story
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Valued Member
United States
219 Posts |
As a conversation piece it might be quite interesting, but unfortunately this coin has no value. As stated in the previous thread, they are being sold on ebay for $3. Sorry.
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New Member
 United States
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Oh well I knew it was too good to be true.
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New Member
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Let's say it was authentic in the condition it's in how much would it have gone for
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Valued Member
United States
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If it was a Hu-Peh Province Dragon Dollar, in VF condition, I would see no reason why it wouldn't sell for upwards of $500.
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Rest in Peace
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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
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It's done by a counterfeiter with a conscience, purposely making the fake very obvious. It's the fakes that you can't tell that are insidious and most dangerous.
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