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ID Help: Ae 10mm With Star

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Had this little thing in my backlog for a good while now. I finally want to know what it is more than I want the satisfaction of figuring it out myself.

10mm, 1.21g
Can't tell if it's heavily encrusted bronze, or maybe lead?
Obv is a blob... sorta looks like a crab with some imagination
Rev is a six pointed star.
Fabric is reasonably thick and sturdy. Leaning towards Greek or Celtic.

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Any ideas? Nudge in the right direction?
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The star reminds me more of a CHI RHO rather than a star.
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My first thought, Steve, is a lead British token. These are usually described as "medieval" or "post-medieval." Ron had one with a floral design (petals radiating outward from a center point) some time back. But they also come with spoked wheels too - usually eight but sometimes six spokes. The top pic of yours reminds me of shapes I've sometimes seen on them, perhaps an animal of some sort (see two at left, below).

The tokens are usually - but not always - uniface. Typically they are lead, I believe. Sizes seems to vary greatly

From one website: "These lead pieces probably had a range of functions, perhaps a cheaper versions of reckoning counters and as token coinage in small scale dealings, and more certainly, as chits, tickets or passes. Ecclesiastical bodies used such tokens to register attendance at services. In most cases it is impossible to ascribe a particular function to these lead pieces." http://www.colchestertreasurehuntin...hctokens.htm )

This, as I said, is just an immediate first thought. I may well be wrong (and I suspect I probably am).



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At first I also thought it might be an English token, but they are usually much larger and heavier.
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Don't know how you do it, Bob.

Can't deny that those look an awful lot like what I have, but as Ron pointed out, 10mm doesn't make a very useful reckoning token. But, you jogged my memory that this seller previously sold me a lot that had an English coin weight for a Half-Angel, so this isn't too much of a stretch. I'll keep my eyes peeled and update if I find anything else.
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