Another 1969-S Doubled Die Obverse / DDO ? Maybe In Liberty?!

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ttumaii New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 07/15/2017 5:17 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 07/15/2017 5:35 pm Nope here neither, you need to learn what they really look like: Gotta be this way ALL OVER the coin, EXACTLY. Report this Post to the Staff
ttumaii New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 07/15/2017 11:26 pm i think this would be DDO just a class 5 DDO am I wrong? Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 07/15/2017 11:37 pm No it is not Pivoted Hub doubling. That would be like the 1995 LMC where the pivot point was the date. Your pix is bad #1 and #2, ALL the letters would be DEFINITELY doubled. Here's something I'm working on for newbie questions Quote: The Classes of Hub Doubling defined. Class 1: Rotated Hub Doubling Doubling where a second hubbing has been moved CW or CCW. The 1955P and 1972P are classic examples. Class 2: Distorted Hub Doubling This affects the outer design elements, separation lines normally above but can be under letters. Hub design variation. Class 3: Design Hub Doubling Most commonly known as Overdates(OVD), as in the Large Date over Small Date 1970S. Class 4: Offset Hub Doubling Where one hubbing offsets another in any direction, this is the "doubled ear" variety of 1984P. Class 5 Pivoted Hub Doubling Design elements "pivot" around a specific point on the die. Such as 1995P, date is pivot & untouched, Motto/LIBERTY are doubled. Class 6 Distended Hub Doubling Here a Stretching of design elements, only Class not showing a definite separation line. This is caused by an improperly annealed (treated) die itself causing stamped impression to "stretch" Class 7 Modified Hub Doubling This comes from trying to correct an error by failing to grind all off before hubbing again. Best seen on 1963D-1DO-001, very few in LMC's. Class 8: Tilted Hub Doubling The design is tilted, showing a s extra "bars" next to devices such as above L in LIBERTY or next to letters IN. Class 9: Shifted Hub Doubling Came to describe errors in "single squeeze" minting such as "wavy steps". Thought to have come from the snapping "pop" that comes from the pressure applied which causes a slight shift. Remember, this has been debunked as not a true Doubled Die by most. (see http://www.traildies.com) Besides which, there mare no KNOWN Class 5's on 1969S's Edited by Crazyb0 07/15/2017 11:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCents Pillar of the Community United States 3656 Posts	Posted 07/15/2017 11:40 pm ttumaii Maybe a bit of Strike Doubling? The Liberty looks like it has been polished down quite a bit. A flat straight on picture would help out Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 07/16/2017 08:42 am Coppercoins list the two lessor known DDO's as CLASS 5. The spread can be seen on the date. http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds Would need straight on close up of date and MM to tell for sure. That said judging by the current image the MM does not seem to line up like the two on coppercoins. Also would like to see full reverse. Thanks, Doug. Edited by Halo1st 07/16/2017 08:52 am Report this Post to the Staff
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Another 1969-S DDO? Maybe In Liberty?!