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 Posted 04/25/2008  11:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hugemistake2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This summer in my spare time I am completely overhauling the way my coin collection is organized -- which right now, is not very organized at all. Most of my coins are inexpensive world coins I have accumulated over the years, and I do have some older silver coins.

To organize these, I am putting them in Myler 2x2s (I don't own any coin that is so rare that it should be slabbed), which are very cheap. I also found these plastic pages to put them in here:

http://www.aboutcoincollecting.com/...supplies.htm

For 25 cents each, they're much cheaper than any other plastic pages I've been able to find. I just want to make sure that 10 years from now all my coins won't have turned green. I also would like to know if anyone can vouch for the reliablity of the site.

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 Posted 04/26/2008  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In a 2x2, your coins themselves should be well protected from any box or album you store the 2x2s in.

But what you might find is the 2x2's themselves can degrade if kept in the wrong type of plastic page. I've noticed "solvent migration" can occur from the album page into the 2x2 film, causing the film to go sticky on the outside, and hard to remove from the page.

The problem is made worse in hot weather or if the album is squeezed or compressed by, for instance, stacking several albums on top of each other and leaving them that way for years. The album on the bottom will almost certainly suffer from this effect.

The result isn't pleasant. I've been to coin shops and coin shows where the dealer has had to loan you a screwdriver, credit card or some similar wedge-shaped object so you can prise the 2x2s out of their albums. Not pretty.

There are two things you can do to avoid this.

First, don't keep albums stacked on top of each other. I keep my pages in binders that sit on a shelf, allowing the pages to hang vertically.

Second, use higher quality plastic pages. Personally, I steer completely clear of the ones made and sold specifically for coins. I've never owned one that wasn't prone to solvent migration.

Apparently, the photographic industry has done research into solvent migration (an effect which can ruin a photographic slide), and produced slide album pages that are far less prone to it. With the advent of digital cameras and the resultant demise of the photographic slide, these pages are getting harder to find, but a larger photographic supply store should still stock them. Last I checked, packs of 100 20-slot pages designed for 2x2 slides are still available at my local photo shop for for less than $40.

I've never had a problem with PrintFile brand pages.
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 Posted 04/26/2008  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I also have used the Printfile pages for negatives and never had a problem. Any Vinyl pages ( thin or heavy) can eventually cause a problem. Most 2x2 mylars are good for many years, but since the edge are usually just stapled, migration can occur after a decade or two :) Here is a type of page similar to the printfile stuff. I have not used these, as I don't use pages, but I would if I did. Other suppliers probably have the same. The archival polypropylene ones on url page

https://www.brent-krueger.com/vinylpages.html

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 Posted 04/26/2008  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hugemistake2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all your help. Desertgem: that link is especially helpful and I think I will be buying those pages instead. They're not that much more expensive.
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 Posted 04/26/2008  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I once bought a collection that had some vinyl sheets that had been stored untouched in a binder for at least 20 years in a hot desert storage shed. The pages were so stiff and hard they were like plywood in stiffness, but they would crack when you turned them. The coins were in 2x2, but many had a dried film on them which came off after a soaking in acetone, Surprisingly, none of the coins had any permanent damage...maybe because of the low humidity?

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 Posted 04/28/2008  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Versus "high humidity" and careless "storage practices" can do some devestating things to "proof" coins or any coins really.....
I've just seen some recently that were carelessly stored for 35 years in U.S. Mint packaging (which wasn't or isn't airtight anyway) and the proof coins are badly degrading.....it's just sad !..
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 Posted 04/30/2008  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeathJr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WON.m313.lVI

is what I buy for my coins, and they work amazingly well for the price I have been buying them for about a year now and coins look as good as I put them into them 1 year ago.
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 Posted 05/04/2008  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MLFLY to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So far as notebooks go to hold the slide pages, I use these:

http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.c...mGroupId=347

They are stackable without squashing the one underneath and their square nature gives me room to toss in silica gel packs.

I've used Light Impressions stuff for storing a negatives and slides for many years.
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 Posted 05/04/2008  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MLFLY, the TrueCore Binder Box that you're linked to, how durable is it? It looked like the card board is very thin.

Have you used their Polypropylene Binder Boxes?
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 Posted 05/08/2008  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are many different types of those plastic pages you mentioned. I go to a lot of coin shows and they sell for about $0.10 each and up. Never saw any for more than $0.25 each. Almost all the dealers at these shows have many coins in 2x2's and in those 3 ringed binders with those plastic pages that hold 20 2x2's. I never have any problems getting the 2x2's out. Probably due to many years of usage they stretch a little. Some dealers have a little stick to push them out if your fingers are not good enough. I've got one binder full of proofs in 2x2's and in those 20 holder pages and they've been there for about 10 or more years. No problems that I can see.
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